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Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1549 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:57 pm
The question of loyalty and state pride has come up a lot since C. Robinson has verbally committed to Alabama. What about the coaching staff’s lack of loyalty to in state prospects that are die hard LSU fans and have enough talent to play SEC football but do not get an offer from LSU because the staff has an out of state guy that they like more. Last year, LSU passed up on Noel Ellis from Karr who was an All- American and this year on Sims. Also, what is wrong with getting a quality recruit in the program to help you ensure the future commitments from more highly prized recruits? If offering a scholarship to a very talented DB in Ellis would help with Speedy and Willis, why not offer? If offering a scholarship to a very talented WR in Sims would help with C. Robinson, why not offer?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31832 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:58 pm to
Wait Noel Ellis was an all American? When the frick did that happen?

Getting one db last years prevents us from getting an Ed Paris, a tony brown, a devin voorhies, or a hootie jones. I'll take those 4 over a small db any day. An please do not refer to TM7 with Ellis, they are completely different players.
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 10:00 pm
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
11094 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:58 pm to

#Paging Cadello
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51180 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:06 pm to
Read thread thought it was about LF's tweet
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6187 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:09 pm to
Premise is flawed.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59193 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

If offering a scholarship to a very talented DB in Ellis would help with Speedy and Willis, why not offer?


I do not understand why people think Ellis and his bat shite crazy uncle will pull these kids to A&M, but guys like current LSU commit and Karr playerDonnie Alexander or current LSU player and Karr Alum Derek Endiburough will have no impact. Not to mention the long standing relationship Noil has with LSU recruiting coordinator Frank Wilson.

quote:

If offering a scholarship to a very talented WR in Sims would help with C. Robinson, why not offer?


Sims was by all reports terrible at LSU's camp last summer and did not seem interested in coming to any of the events this year. There was no guarantee that offering him would have swayed Robinson or that Sims would have committed.
Posted by vinceclsu
Walker. LA
Member since Feb 2006
293 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:17 pm to
Don't like being held hostage. You say that LSU should have offered Sims because he is a fan. Supposedly so was CRob and he sold LSU out. Can't have it both ways.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47820 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:30 pm to
There are only so many recruits LSU can take.

Offering Sims would not have guaranteed Cam...Period.
He seems to have been turned to the dark side long ago.

When LSU starts taking lesser recruits they will no longer be the Elite program they are..

As much as it would make you feel warm and fuzzy to take lesser recruits it just isn't feasible to keep the program where it is.

Bottom line: they are no Sure Things in recruiting..Only what you recruiting geniuses think there are...leave it to the experts..

Are you Noel's dad?
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:10 am to
quote:

The question of loyalty and state pride has come up a lot since C. Robinson has verbally committed to Alabama. What about the coaching staff’s lack of loyalty to in state prospects that are die hard LSU fans and have enough talent to play SEC football but do not get an offer from LSU because the staff has an out of state guy that they like more. Last year, LSU passed up on Noel Ellis from Karr who was an All- American and this year on Sims. Also, what is wrong with getting a quality recruit in the program to help you ensure the future commitments from more highly prized recruits? If offering a scholarship to a very talented DB in Ellis would help with Speedy and Willis, why not offer? If offering a scholarship to a very talented WR in Sims would help with C. Robinson, why not offer


You are preaching to the choir, loyalty and respect has to go both ways!!!
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 4:38 am to
C. Rob made his choice let him live with it. I will wish him no crystal trophy's or SEC c'ships.
Enjoy Bama it sure ain't LSU.
Posted by BR_raised87
Hinesville, GA
Member since Aug 2013
553 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 4:48 am to
if I was a recruit reading this board I would probably leave state also, due to all the a-holes
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36179 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:40 am to
quote:

The question of loyalty and state pride has come up a lot since C. Robinson has verbally committed to Alabama. What about the coaching staff’s lack of loyalty to in state prospects that are die hard LSU fans and have enough talent to play SEC football but do not get an offer from LSU because the staff has an out of state guy that they like more. Last year, LSU passed up on Noel Ellis from Karr who was an All- American and this year on Sims. Also, what is wrong with getting a quality recruit in the program to help you ensure the future commitments from more highly prized recruits? If offering a scholarship to a very talented DB in Ellis would help with Speedy and Willis, why not offer? If offering a scholarship to a very talented WR in Sims would help with C. Robinson, why not offer?



1) LSU supports and has relationships with Louisiana high schools so it is not a one way relationship. LSU's athletic programs are generally speaking the best & most outstanding representations of Louisiana pride the nation can see. If you are proud of being a Louisiana kid and want to take part in that excellence you will be not only appreciated but loved and adored.

If you want to go to a different part of the country where you will not compete directly with LSU (like Notre Dame or Stanford) most will be sad to lose you but accept your decision. If you choose to go to Alabama when LSU desperately wanted you then you will be viewed as spitting in the face of state pride by many.

2) I understand the feelings of some guys who want to play for LSU but were not offered but if you weren't good enough to get an offer that an out of state kid got then they did you a favor - because that means you weren't going to get on the field.

You were not only not as good as the out of state kids you weren't good enough to beat out the in state talent this year either. That's exactly what happened to Sims. I suspect Sims gets processed at Bama but good luck to him because this year the talent in LA at WR was just too ridiculous to offer a guy who showed poorly at his prior camp and refused to camp again for the LSU coaches
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28752 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:54 am to
It's always interesting to come to this board after LSU fails to get a recruit they and the fans really wanted. Sadly, many comments show just how pathetic some people are to get genuinely upset about where a 17-18 kid decides to go to school. I'm an LSU fan, and I'd love nothing more than to see my alma mater get the best recruits in the country and put the best team on the field year in and year out. However I see posters (not the OP) angrily lashing out at a kid because HE chose to go out of state to play football. Some posters argue that LA kids somehow are supposed to be "loyal" to their home-state, and therefore MUST attend LSU. At the end of the day it's that kid's life, and that kid's decision alone. While as a fan I'm dissapointed when a good player choose any school over LSU, I will never fault or lash out at a kid for deciding to go to school where he wants.
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