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re: ESPN radio- trying to destroy CFB
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:00 am to GeauxTigersLee
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:00 am to GeauxTigersLee
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there's nothing forcing these players to play in the NFL. they can go play CFL if they wish.
Right
I guess I just don't care
The NFL can make their own rules. If they want to make younger people eligible then I don't have a problem with it.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:09 am to Swoopin
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He shouldn't be confined because a bunch of overweight white guys with bad facial hair and a job as plant operator want their college team of choice to do well.
They aren't. They are "confined" because a bunch of business savvy, suit wearing, millionaires know what they're doing and don't want to pay physically underdeveloped high school seniors millions to have a 2 year disappointing career.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:11 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:No farm system in the NFL.
And that is why you aren't a GM. If you don't scoop up a player like that, some other team will. Nobody in the Major Leagues was drafted out of high school and played in the MLB from day 1.
Unless they can contribute immediately, most guys are cut. especially with the new rookie pay scale and no guaranteed contracts.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:13 am to PrimeTime Money
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And that is why you aren't a GM. If you don't scoop up a player like that, some other team will. Nobody in the Major Leagues was drafted out of high school and played in the MLB from day 1.
we're not talking about the MLB dumbass.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:15 am to Scoob
Yes, college football is fun to watch. But it is also absurd. This idea of 18-20 year olds attending class while performing their jobs as football players is a joke. The system NEEDS to change, and it will eventually.
Eventually NFL will change its rules to sign kids on at young ages, and grow them. They will learn the proper way, at a young age, to tackle, etc. And once the ones who don't 'make it' have fricked their professional careers through injuries, then they will go to college and not destroy the very idea of what college is supposed to represent. Which is, first and foremost, higher learning. And then these people will get actual jobs that aren't related to sports. Just like the rest of us.
Eventually NFL will change its rules to sign kids on at young ages, and grow them. They will learn the proper way, at a young age, to tackle, etc. And once the ones who don't 'make it' have fricked their professional careers through injuries, then they will go to college and not destroy the very idea of what college is supposed to represent. Which is, first and foremost, higher learning. And then these people will get actual jobs that aren't related to sports. Just like the rest of us.
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:16 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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we're not talking about the MLB dumbass.
When the "farm system" and "minor league" topics came up, the MLB became relevant to the discussion. Especially when the MLB is being used as the cornerstone for people's arguments who are for HS to NFL jumps.
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:17 am to PrimeTime Money
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Nobody in the Major Leagues was drafted out of high school and played in the MLB from day 1.
Wrong
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:20 am to Meursault
quote:You do realize that there is only a very small minority of players who play professionally after college? there's no school that sends a majority of their players to play professionally after college.
This idea of 18-20 year olds attending class while performing their jobs as a football player is a joke.
so how is that system a joke?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:20 am to Meursault
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Yes, college football is fun to watch. But it is also absurd. This idea of 18-20 year olds attending class while performing their jobs as football players is a joke. The system NEEDS to change, and it will eventually.
Eventually NFL will change its rules to sign kids on at young ages, and grow them. They will learn the proper way, at a young age, to tackle, etc. And once the ones who don't 'make it' have fricked their professional careers through injuries, then they will go to college and not destroy the very idea of what college is supposed to represent. Which is, first and foremost, higher learning. And then these people will get actual jobs that aren't related to sports. Just like the rest of us.
Why? The NFL currently has a de facto minor league in CFB at no cost to them. There is no incentive for them to change that.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:26 am to dcrews
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Victimization of players again?
Is that what you got out of my post? Read more carefully.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:29 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:OK, I'll just use my own personal experience here. I'm a huge football fan, and not very long ago (in my perspective... in some others' it can be considered a VERY long time), I also was a huge basketball fan.
I think it is selfish for people to want to force kids to go to college just because people like college sports.
I don't understand the fascination with people wanting to "save college sports". College sports are simply a means to an end.
Athletes shouldn't be forced to attend a college to play a sport just because you want their talent so that your school can beat another school.
It's ridiculous. College sports should get the leftovers of those not good enough to play elsewhere... not the first pick of athletes, as if a school has a right to an athlete's talent.
Before early entry rules, things were very similar to football with the pros and colleges. You had great college teams (UNC, Georgetown, Houston, etc) with stars (Jordan, Drexler, Olajuwon, Ewing) that you waited with anticipation for the time they'd finally be drafted.
College ball helped them, both in development- and in marketing too. Remember the Patrick Ewing saga? The NBA created the fricking draft lottery BECAUSE of him, and the notoriety he gained at Georgetown (Hoya Paranoia, although honestly Olajuwon had the better skill set the prior year). EVERYBODY had to get a shot. In no way did Ewing suffer from attending school, he benefited big-time. And incidentally, so did G'Town, the NCAA, and the NBA.
Now- I'm not really sure who the big college teams are, or who their most dominant player is (although I'll guess he's a frosh). I'm not looking at schedules to see big matchups (see- UNC/Duke, Georgetown/Syracuse/St Johns, Indiana/Kentucky etc) like I used to. I no longer wait for March Madness, haven't for years.
So what? So the fact is, I no longer wait for the draft either, and no longer care who goes where. That stretch of years where I never heard of over half the players picked
and with pick #3, the Spurs take &%#?@!, from Outer Mongolia. Here are some highlights of him dunking on a goat...
Next up, the Suns at #4, taking Billy from T-Bob H.S. in Chalmette. He's shown good passing skills in the 13 and under group
killed it for me.
As a result, I now no longer know or care who's playing for most of the teams in the league... and don't watch anymore. Sure, I might catch a game or 2 if it's the Hornets (local), or "Lebron/Kobe" (incessant hype), but not like I used to, or like I still do football.
I just really don't want football to go that way.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:31 am to Scoob
Goat dunking is an underrated and undervalued skill. Any GM who finds the best goat dunker is exploiting a market inefficiency.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:33 am to GeauxTigersLee
BTW, espn radio isn't trying to destroy "cfb"
It's more of them creating a story since well the NBA/CBB is pretty dull at the moment.
It's more of them creating a story since well the NBA/CBB is pretty dull at the moment.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:43 am to shuke33
And I think this Clowney story itself is a media made controversy.
Dude won't sit out, and it's not like he's the first or last player who thinks he should go early because he thinks the three year rule is unfair to him.
And just like the others who went before him, he'll defend the three year rule once he's in the league because it benefits him at that point.
Dude won't sit out, and it's not like he's the first or last player who thinks he should go early because he thinks the three year rule is unfair to him.
And just like the others who went before him, he'll defend the three year rule once he's in the league because it benefits him at that point.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:49 am to Powerman
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The NFL can make their own rules. If they want to make younger people eligible then I don't have a problem with it.
Idon't like the idea..... A player like Jeremy Hill is nowhere NEAR ready to take on a team of STARS like they have in the pros. Their are lineman that would get seriously injured without a couple years of college ball.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:51 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:No, not really. Not if my profession and income was totally reliant on your paying to watch me perform it, and without your patronage, it would collapse. Now, since it isn't, it seems ridiculous to imply.
oob- i know youre great at your job and deserve a promotion, but you making more money and supporting your family doesnt mean anything to me b/c i dont know you. for my enjoyment, i think you should get a job at micky D's making $7/hr b/c i sometimes go there to eat.
kinda ridiculous when the shoe is on the other foot, isnt it?
Depending on how many people would demand that I go flip burgers at McD's, I might reach a market value where I could command a whole lot more than $7 an hr, and it could become a prospect. My minimum requirements would be under the current NFL salary (I'd do it for barely into the 6 figure range), so it could be a bargain. You think we can drum up the necessary support?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:52 am to Meursault
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Yes, college football is fun to watch. But it is also absurd. This idea of 18-20 year olds attending class while performing their jobs as football players is a joke. The system NEEDS to change, and it will eventually.
Iagree with this... Somewhat. The benefit of a college education would work wonders for ALL players we are talking about.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:55 am to Sophandros
quote:So true...
Goat dunking is an underrated and undervalued skill. Any GM who finds the best goat dunker is exploiting a market inefficiency.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:56 am to dcrews
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When the "farm system" and "minor league" topics came up, the MLB became relevant to the discussion. Especially when the MLB is being used as the cornerstone for people's arguments who are for HS to NFL jumps
no its not. the NBA is the cornerstone of the argument because you have lots of star players that jump straight from HS. one major problem with that argument is that most fans will agree the NBA has declined and that NCAA basketball has declined even more as a result of HS kids making the jump.
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