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Offense vs Defense in the NFL? Which wins championships?
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:34 pm
Which one do you guys feel is more important in today's NFL? Obviously we have always heard that D wins championships, but is that true anymore?
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:35 pm to BlueIndian420
Both win about an equal amount of the time.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:38 pm to BlueIndian420
I think you can compensate for both. Steelers and Packers are recent examples of both. Offense seems to rule in the NFL right now
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:40 pm to BlueIndian420
Balance wins. Even if you skew one way you really need to be at least top 10ish, or above average, on the other side of the ball.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:46 pm to BlueIndian420
Definitely offense.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:49 pm to BlueIndian420
In the NFL Offense wins games, the defense wins the Super Bowl. I don't mean the defense will do enough to get you there and win, I mean that WHEN it's played the defense wins it for you.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:51 pm to BlueIndian420
NFL: Elite QB. Colts went 2-14 a year after Manning left. Denver is 13-3 now.
College: Defense and running game. don't need elite QB or elite WR. control the LOS.
College: Defense and running game. don't need elite QB or elite WR. control the LOS.
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:59 pm to BlueIndian420
It used to be D but the league has manipulated the rules so much in favor of the O it's now you win with QB&D
Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:36 pm to BlueIndian420
If you have an elite QB,a quality o-line,and a defense that can create turnovers,you can beat anybody.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:46 pm to BlueIndian420
coaches
Posted on 1/11/13 at 2:16 pm to BlueIndian420
We hear this a lot. That it is a QB league now and an offense driven league. But the numbers just don't jive with what seems like an obvious transition in the NFL. From a thread awhile back:
LINK:
Defense wins championships:
(total offense)/(total defense/scoring defense)
Great D:
_(9) / (5/_2) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1/_1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7/17) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4/_3) 2005 Steelers
(17) / (7/_1) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1/_1) 2002 Buccaneers
(19) / (8/_6) 2001 Patriots
(16) / (2/_1) 2000 Ravens
More O than D:
_(8) / (27/25) 2011 Giants
_(1) / (25/20) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21/23) 2006 Colts
_(7) / (_9/_3) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
User Error:
(19) / (8/6) 2001 Patriots, how did they win it all? User error. They had a solid D.
edit: update
LINK:
Defense wins championships:
(total offense)/(total defense/scoring defense)
Great D:
_(9) / (5/_2) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1/_1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7/17) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4/_3) 2005 Steelers
(17) / (7/_1) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1/_1) 2002 Buccaneers
(19) / (8/_6) 2001 Patriots
(16) / (2/_1) 2000 Ravens
More O than D:
_(8) / (27/25) 2011 Giants
_(1) / (25/20) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21/23) 2006 Colts
_(7) / (_9/_3) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
User Error:
(19) / (8/6) 2001 Patriots, how did they win it all? User error. They had a solid D.
edit: update
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/11/13 at 3:39 pm to BlueIndian420
You need an elite QB with an at least ok defense, or at least an ok QB with a dominant defense.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 5:12 pm to BlueIndian420
offense wins games, Defense wins championships.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:06 pm to BlueIndian420
I think it depends one team. Obviously offense rules the nfl in this era but I still believe defense is capable of winning championships. It's a qb driven league if you are the defensive team you're not gonna win without shutdown corners and a great pass rush. Either way elite qb's rule the league and win championships.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:38 pm to BlueIndian420
Offense. Defense has been outlawed by the NFL
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:24 am to BlueIndian420
Great offense and forcing turnovers (saints/green bay sb years) or decent o/no turnovers and great d (ravens)
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:08 am to BlueIndian420
I think the defense wins championship montra is still alive and well. Just look at the Saints. They've been setting offensive records for nearly 7 years but only have one championship Bc of how poorly the defense has played.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:28 pm to BlueIndian420
An elite QB and a defense that forces turnovers is the new formula to win in the NFL.
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