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Interesting discussion about the LSU vs Bama Again ESPN article
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:07 pm
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:11 pm to thelsutigerfan
why not just post the link instead of a link to message board that also has the link?
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:14 pm to Ash Williams
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why not just post the link instead of a link to message board that also has the link?
better yet just post the meat of the article.
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What does the college football establishment least want to see?
A) A payment system for the players based on how many recruiting stars that player had coming out of high school.
B) Unrestricted free agency.
C) A 16-team playoff with the championship game being played the Saturday before the Super Bowl.
D) Alabama and LSU to square off again for the 2012 national championship.
Just to be clear here, the chances of the first three happening are right up there with the chances of coaches’ salaries being geared to how many players they graduate and not how many games or championships they win.
The fourth one, though, isn’t that outrageous.
In fact, based on what we’ve seen the first three weeks of the season, Alabama vs. LSU has as much merit as any other potential matchup for the Discover BCS National Championship Game in South Florida.
Even the most zealous SEC fan would admit that there’s so much football left to be played that predicting an Alabama-LSU rematch for the top prize again this season is way too premature.
But it is fun to kick around the idea and imagine the grimaces on the faces of everybody else around the country at the very thought of two teams from the SEC [-- the same two teams, mind you -- turning South Beach into SEC headquarters in January.
It’s frustrating enough for the rest of the college football world to see that the SEC has won six straight national championships.
But to make it two in a row where it’s an all-SEC final?
The sheer horror of it all is too much to bear for those outside of Dixie. Oh yeah, outside of Texas and Missouri now, too.
Alabama is the country’s best team right now, and it’s hard to imagine the Crimson Tide stumbling prior to their Nov. 3 showdown with LSU in Baton Rouge.
LSU, which has been equally dominant the first three weeks, has a more treacherous path to that date. LSU plays at Auburn Saturday, but also has a stretch where it faces Florida on the road, South Carolina at home and then Texas A&M on the road before a bye leading into Alabama’s visit.
Alabama does not have a bye right before the game this season and gets Missouri and Tennessee on the road before returning home to face Mississippi State the week before traveling to Baton Rouge.
We’ll see if the two teams can handle the grind and make it to Nov. 3 unbeaten and still ranked Nos. 1 and 2 in the polls.
The truth is that too much probably would have to happen for Alabama and LSU to wind up there again in the final BCS standings.
Oregon looks as explosive as ever, but has to play at USC on the same November Saturday. Of course, the Trojans already have had their annual hiccup, losing to Stanford last weekend.
Florida State also looks capable of running the table, although the Seminoles have a big showdown with Clemson this weekend.
Again, a lot would have to happen for Alabama and LSU to play again for the title, and you can’t help but wonder if there would be some funky voting in the two polls that last week if they’re both in position.
Two years from now, none of this will matter.
The four-team playoff is scheduled to kick off in 2014, with a selection committee picking the four teams.
Just for the fun of it, consider if the selection process were to take place right now -- who would be the four this season?
I’m talking about looking ahead and projecting the four best teams and the four most deserving teams after the conference championship games are played.
I’d go with Alabama, LSU, Florida State and Oregon, in that order.
I guess we’ll find out in December how right I was.
In the meantime, let’s enjoy the season, and to a lesser extent, all the grumbling that’s sure to come if Alabama and LSU stay right where they are.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:15 pm to Ash Williams
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why not just post the link instead of a link to message board that also has the link?
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:21 pm to thelsutigerfan
The comments on that article are disturbing. Pretty sure they have to be some of Updyke's relatives
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:30 pm to thelsutigerfan
Get ready guys. This is the third similar article just in the last two days, way before LSU and Bama even meet for the first time. They are laying the groundwork for Mulligan II (if Bama loses in Nov., of course) so it won't seem so surprising if/when announced later. "Eyeball tests" and "best losses" criteria will be soon to follow.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:37 pm to Thunder Tiger
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Get ready guys. This is the third similar article just in the last two days, way before LSU and Bama even meet for the first time. They are laying the groundwork for Mulligan II (if Bama loses in Nov., of course) so it won't seem so surprising if/when announced later. "Eyeball tests" and "best losses" criteria will be soon to follow.
Yet when posters like myself stated Mulligan I would be bad for CFB, I was called a kook for even suggesting Mulligan II could happen.
Make no mistake about it, IF LSU wins on 11/3, this will be pushed if no other media darling is unbeaten.
Again, as I've stated a million times before here:
LSU's new standard now is beating Bama twice in a season, while they only need to beat us once.
The CFB regular season is already irrelevant. 2011 did this...not 2014.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:40 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Yet when posters like myself stated Mulligan I would be bad for CFB, I was called a kook for even suggesting Mulligan II could happen.
I thought you were a kook ad last year was a one time thing, particularly with how they changed the postseason in the wake of the game. But... man. You may have a point.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:49 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I was called a kook for even suggesting Mulligan II could happen.
I've thought it was a realistic possibility since 01/09. I've also been influenced by my unquenchable desire for epic payback for beating those aholes twice.
But, I think it'll be FSU bc the ACC is terrible. FSU will smoke Clemson. Auburn played Clemson within inches of ther lives. I know Clemson didn't have Watkins but still, Auburn is atrocious.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:53 pm to thelsutigerfan
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thelsutigerfan
you suck at the internet
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:55 pm to Ash Williams
Because Interesting discussion about the LSU vs Bama Again ESPN article. I was referring to the discussion not the article. 
Posted on 9/18/12 at 3:56 pm to colorchangintiger
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thelsutigerfan
you suck at the internet
You suck at reading
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/18/12 at 4:19 pm to Ash Williams
A Baman fan posted this. Very good.
"It's just not going to happen again, IMO.
People seem to forget the amazing amount of circumstances that made it possible a year ago. It wasn't some conspiracy that most college football fans seem to believe. Once we lost to LSU, our chances were done for except for the fact that the following happened:
Oklahoma State lost to a heavy underdog, Iowa State.
Oregon lost at home to USC.
Oklahoma lost to Baylor.
No one from the ACC was worth two craps.
No one from the Big Ten went undefeated, or finished with just one loss.
Alabama won out, impressively.
The chances of all of those things happening, especially each of the first three, were very remote. But somehow they all did. Should Alabama and LSU enter their game unbeaten again this year, I'm betting the loser will be out for good. Because this year, it appears you will have an unbeaten Oregon, unbeaten Florida State, and you could have an unbeaten Notre Dame, Oklahoma, or Texas. The loser of the Alabama/LSU game isn't making it past any of those teams, should they all finish undefeated. In fact, I'll bet if they have a loss, but that loss is early on in the season, the loser of the Alabama/LSU game won't pass them in the final standings.
What happened last year was a rare case. Just as what happened in 2007 was a rare case. If I'm a betting man, I bet against it happening again this season. "
"It's just not going to happen again, IMO.
People seem to forget the amazing amount of circumstances that made it possible a year ago. It wasn't some conspiracy that most college football fans seem to believe. Once we lost to LSU, our chances were done for except for the fact that the following happened:
Oklahoma State lost to a heavy underdog, Iowa State.
Oregon lost at home to USC.
Oklahoma lost to Baylor.
No one from the ACC was worth two craps.
No one from the Big Ten went undefeated, or finished with just one loss.
Alabama won out, impressively.
The chances of all of those things happening, especially each of the first three, were very remote. But somehow they all did. Should Alabama and LSU enter their game unbeaten again this year, I'm betting the loser will be out for good. Because this year, it appears you will have an unbeaten Oregon, unbeaten Florida State, and you could have an unbeaten Notre Dame, Oklahoma, or Texas. The loser of the Alabama/LSU game isn't making it past any of those teams, should they all finish undefeated. In fact, I'll bet if they have a loss, but that loss is early on in the season, the loser of the Alabama/LSU game won't pass them in the final standings.
What happened last year was a rare case. Just as what happened in 2007 was a rare case. If I'm a betting man, I bet against it happening again this season. "
Posted on 9/18/12 at 4:36 pm to TheDeathValley
Yeah I hear this a lot from Bama fans and it's bullshite.
The bottom line is at the end the voters could've put Okie in who had a better resume and was favored in the computers. Yet not only did not enough put Okie 2nd, some voted them 4th, 5th, and 6th. Can this Bama fan give me an unbiased explanation for those votes?
And if Mulligan II is so unlikely why are we already seeing this scenerio discussed this early, with multiple major teams still undefeated, and a one loss USC?
Bama clearly has an inside tract to the NC unlike any other team in the country. As EZE often says, we just need to accept it and deal with it.
The bottom line is at the end the voters could've put Okie in who had a better resume and was favored in the computers. Yet not only did not enough put Okie 2nd, some voted them 4th, 5th, and 6th. Can this Bama fan give me an unbiased explanation for those votes?
And if Mulligan II is so unlikely why are we already seeing this scenerio discussed this early, with multiple major teams still undefeated, and a one loss USC?
Bama clearly has an inside tract to the NC unlike any other team in the country. As EZE often says, we just need to accept it and deal with it.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 4:52 pm to TheDeathValley
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A Baman fan posted this.
Baman? Did Saban start wearing a mask and patrolling the mean streets of Tuscaloosa?
Posted on 9/18/12 at 5:36 pm to thelsutigerfan
I don't think we should discuss bama until we've played and won all of the games before Nov 3. We have to beat Auburn, Fla, USC, and A&M first.
This week Auburn at Auburn.
This week Auburn at Auburn.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 5:53 pm to thelsutigerfan
Bama hopes it will be because they know they will lose in tiger stadium
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:42 am to TheDeathValley
On the other hand what if LSU loses a game narrowly, before the Bama game and then beats Bama?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:35 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Hugo Stiglitz
Thanks. Good read. I don't see the "voters" allowing an all-SEC final again(No matter how deserving)
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:15 am to mauser
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I don't think we should discuss bama until we've played and won all of the games before Nov 3
Why not?
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