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re: Holder: Five position battles to watch at camp.

Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:24 am to
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To Soph: Generally we'll have a more limited playbook with Ivory but that's ok. If we need tough yards or to run clock then so be it, we don't need a ton of options, just a battering ram. There's no need for four great pass catching RBs on the roster.


this is how I feel. Cadet has looked good but we already have 2 GREAT rbs that can catch out of the backfield. The idea of Ivory pounding the ball is more valuable to me than a rookie rb who can catch the ball.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:27 am to
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lacks good blocking skills


People keep saying this but it's not correct. Watch clips from the Dallas in '10 & the season finale against Carolina & you will see Ivory is very solid in his blitz pick ups. He's been solid in several other games but those are ones that stick out in my head.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:34 am to
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The idea of Ivory pounding the ball is more valuable to me than a rookie rb who can catch the ball.



If you're inactive on game day, you're not pounding anything.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:36 am to
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you're not pounding anything


TWSS

I doubt Cadet takes Ivory's spot but I really think Nick Toon or Tom Johnson or Andy Tanner could.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:38 am
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:36 am to
BTW, it's fricking awesome that our most heated discussion this training camp is about who will win the fourth string RB job, which is going to go to a guy who will be inactive more often than not.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:37 am to
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will be inactive more often than not.


At least I hope he will be. That means no injuries to the top 3.
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:39 am to
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If you're inactive on game day, you're not pounding anything.


so Cadet will be active if he makes the team?

my argument was who I want as a 4th rb on the team. whether active or inactive.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:42 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:40 am to
That's true. I think we really don't appreciate the talent level on this team.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:41 am to
Chris Ivory is averaging 15 yards a catch receiving the ball.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:42 am to
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Nick toon, Andy tanner, or Tom Johnson


Toon hasn't been practicing

Tom Johnson always seems to he hurt

I don't think Andy tanner has a spot On this team, if he does, he'll be taking Toon's spot
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:43 am to
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I don't think Andy tanner has a spot On this team, if he does, he'll be taking Toon's spot




It'd be nice if they were to IR Toon for the year and let Tanner crack the roster. He's certainly earned it.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:44 am to
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so Cadet will be active if he makes the team?


His point is the fighting is futile (as it is most of the time).

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my argument was who I want as a 4th rb on the team. whether active or inactive.


Right now......you have to pick. Who do you want?
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:46 am to
Ivory.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:46 am to
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Right now......you have to pick. Who do you want?


Ivory can be a back that could rush for 1300 yards in a season if he was given the opportunity to. For our offense being a "finesse" team... i like having Ivory come in and bang some defenders off their heels. I'd admit he hasn't look quite the same thus far but i ain't dismissing what he's proved over 2 seasons over 2 meaningless horseshite preseason games.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:48 am to
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I'd admit he hasn't look quite the same thus far but i ain't dismissing what he's proved over 2 seasons over 2 meaningless horseshite preseason games.


I agree. I just don't see him being active over Ingram/Sproles/PT without injury. If they activate 4 RBs every week, they are lacking depth at another position. Now, if you want him active over Ingram, thats a whole different thread.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:50 am to
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Chris Ivory has one catch for 15 yards.


Fify
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:50 am to
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Now, if you want him active over Ingram, thats a whole different thread.


I dare you!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:50 am to
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I agree. I just don't see him being active over Ingram/Sproles/PT without injury. If they activate 4 RBs every week, they are lacking depth at another position. Now, if you want him active over Ingram, thats a whole different thread.



But one thing we've learned about our RB group is we'll use all of them during the season. Between PT, Ingram, and Ivory... it'd be nothing short of a fricking divine miracle if they go through the season without someone missing some pretty significant time.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:51 am to
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Fify



He's a man that's taken full advantage of the opportunity presented.
Posted by blueslover
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:52 am to
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I think we really don't appreciate the talent level on this team.


in the WR depth? thread I put if ya wanna know lack of depth look at the MIA WRs...

Legedu Naanee
Davone Best
Brian Hartline (injured)
Clyde Gates
Marlon Moore
Roberto Wallace
Julius Pruitt
etc

Step back and enjoy that we're arguing towards the bottom of the roster guys. Instead of scouting other rosters of who might get cut, we have the players that other teams wish they had or will pick up as cuts.
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