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re: Who do we put in the 2-hole in the order going forward?

Posted on 5/24/12 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/24/12 at 3:59 pm to
Problem with putting rhymes there is that he protects Katz who is our only power hitter
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7218 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

the ideal 2 hole hitter on this team is Rhymes.


Agreed, Rhymes should be batting 2nd or 3d. Not only would it potentially give him an extra AB per game, but he's not a classic power hitter so I don't understand why he bats 4th 90% of the time. I like Snicks or Ross in the 4 hole.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80324 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:02 pm to
Plus it's kind of difficult to pull a .475 hitter out of a RBI position in the lineup. It is a quandary.
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:04 pm to
Nola
Hanover - his average is up to .300 and he's our all-time leader in Bunts.
Katz
Rhymes
Ross
Snickeris DH
Moore
Jones
Fields
This post was edited on 5/24/12 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51976 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:14 pm to
Would like for Katz & Raph flip flop. Wanna see Raph in front of Mason to set the table for him. Singles hitter batting cleanup jus doesn't feel right.
This post was edited on 5/24/12 at 4:30 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48956 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:17 pm to
It's not right according to baseball unwritten laws but it's extremely effective. He gets RBIs


Nola, kats, and raph are the only three I wouldnt touch
Posted by TorNation
Sulphur, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2874 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

use a ghost man on the bases for when he has to bat 4th
Dang why didn't I think of the strategically placed ghost runner! Finally a batting order I can support.



Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

why?


Why? Because in 38 ABs in SEC play he had 7 total hits. That's a .184 AVG.

Why is he even in this discussion?
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:31 pm to
ideally you'd put Rhymes ahead of Katz but we haven't had a consistent good hitter with power to put in the #5 hole. Nola is probably our 3rd best hitter but he's more of a #2 type IMO.

With Ross and Snickers back in the line-up today - it seemed to give us a big boost. I like Edward and Dozar but they just aren't cutting it.
And with Ross back at catcher and Snicks at DH - that would give us 6 guys hitting .300 in the line-up.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:40 pm to
This is how I would do it right now moving forward.

1.) Jones
2.) Hanover
3.) Nola
4.) Katz
5.) Rhymes
6.) Snikeris
7.) Ross
8.) Moore
9.) Fields
This post was edited on 5/24/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:44 pm to
In fantasyland:

1. Nola
2. Rhymes
3. Katz
4. Ross
5. Moore
6. Jones
7. Hanover
8. Snickeris
9. Fields

Obviously a lineup like this won't ever happen with Rhymes locked in at 4.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Rhymes locked in at 4


He's not as he was #3 yesterday.
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:46 pm to
Jones strikes out way too much to be leadoff. He's too aggressive often.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

1.) Jones
2.) Hanover
3.) Nola
4.) Katz
5.) Rhymes
6.) Snikeris
7.) Ross
8.) Moore
9.) Fields


Rhymes is way too low. He's more of a natural #2 or #3 hitter. Also, I do not want to put Jacoby back at leadoff. That didn't work out and he is hitting better. Keep him where he is at for the rest of the year.

Dozar shouldn't be in the lineup anymore IMO (except for spot pinch hits).
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76775 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:50 pm to
I think Nola, Katz and Rhymes as 1-2-3 is the best since it maximizes the ABs they can get.

In that scenario, you may structure Hanover-Fields as 8 and 9 since the former can get on base and run well while the latter seems to be a good bunter to move him over. It also gives the Fields the chance for fewest ABs as the worst hitter while making him a "second leadoff" man with some speed.

Nola
Katz
Rhymes
Ross
Snickeris*
Moore*
Jones
Hanover
Fields

* Might flip-flop depending on L/R matchups
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:55 pm to
I could see:
Nola
Hanover
Rhymes
Katz
Ross
Snickeris
Moore
Jones
Fields

but kinda sad compared to our 2009 line-up. I know the bats are a big factor but looking back-

LeMahieu
Schimpf
Dean
Gibbs
Ochinko
Mitchell
Mahtook (not quite the 2011 version I realize)
Hanover/Helenihi
Nola

straight sick
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

(I'm really glad we can have these kind of baseball discussions this year)

I'm really glad we're still having these kind of baseball discussions this year.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:56 pm to
I originally had Nola, Katz, Rhymes, Snikeris, Moore. I'd much rather Rhymes ahead of Katz, but we don't have anyone to put behind Katz to make sure he sees good pitches. I wouldn't be opposed to going


1.) Rhymes
2.) Nola
3.) Katz
4.) Snikeris
5.) Ross
6.) Hanover
7.) Moore
8.) Fields
9.) Jones
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 4:59 pm to
if anyone is questioning who to put at DH
Snickeris or Dozar?
Consider Snickeris is hitting .319
vs. Dozar at .264
and Dozar only has 1 more RBI in 34 more AB's

and Snick has a 8:1 AB/K ratio vs. almost a 3:1 for Dozar
Posted by Better Than Auburn
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2006
138 posts
Posted on 5/24/12 at 5:00 pm to
Thing about putting Rhymes leadoff is he's batting over .600 I believe with RISP

so you want to give him as many RBI opportunities as possible.
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