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re: 3rd party witness confirms Jefferson and Johns involvment...
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:22 pm to TigerInBamaLand
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:22 pm to TigerInBamaLand
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I think that people are confusing vertibral fractures with spinal cord injuries. They are not the same thing.
If you fracture a vertebra and damage your spinal cord you could have serious, life-long health consequences.
If you have a fracture to a dorsal spinous process (part of your vertebra) you'll have a pretty sore back for a while.
Vertebral fracture does not necessarilly mean spinal cord injury.
ETA: I am not condoning this. If JJ kicked this dude and caused vertebral fractures IMO he should be kicked off of the team.
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:22 pm to boogerman77
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The cops would come in if they needed one of our statements, but only they would come in.
read my comment again....I said the bar would be available for the officer.
If he chose to interview an individual inside, away from the commotion..thats would have been his choice.
But this is all speculation anyway.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:23 pm to ssgtiger
Maybe someone can clear up some questions...
Lowery is the marine right? And he's the one we see getting kicked in the video correct? And the first guy is not in the video?
Which one has broken vertebrae - marine or first guy?
Which one has the ex gf who was dancing with Wing? Is that the marine or first guy that got beat up?
Was Wing punched inside the bar? By the marine or first guy?
Weren't there at least 3 or 4 fights inside the bar before the parking lot incident?
So much more to this story that hasn't been released yet.
Bottom line - sounds like a generic bar fight that happens to involve several football players. Nothing more.
Lowery is the marine right? And he's the one we see getting kicked in the video correct? And the first guy is not in the video?
Which one has broken vertebrae - marine or first guy?
Which one has the ex gf who was dancing with Wing? Is that the marine or first guy that got beat up?
Was Wing punched inside the bar? By the marine or first guy?
Weren't there at least 3 or 4 fights inside the bar before the parking lot incident?
So much more to this story that hasn't been released yet.
Bottom line - sounds like a generic bar fight that happens to involve several football players. Nothing more.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:24 pm to Pinetar
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dude, get it right yourself before you tell other people to get comprehension skills. where the female witness talks about the driver of the truck the report refers to the "unknown w/m." then the report identifies the person who rescued the driver and was subsequently attacked by name, but his name is "redacted" (which by the way means "edit" but is usually used to refer to specific information is removed from or blacked-out in a written document. it clearly does not mean whatever you think it means from your extensive viewing of "the office") from the report. it would certainly appear from the report that she knew this supposed rescuer.
Yes, it does identify him after the officer takes his statement. Her statement was an "unknown W/M". It is possible she also meant the guy Lowery rescued, but she did not identify Lowery and his statement was only taken later after "arrival at the bar".
Actually no it doesn't. On The Office they used it to mean the same as retracted. My apologies. However his name is not "redacted" either genius. It is spelled out quite clearly. It in no way appears from this report that she was in any way connected with Lowery. Nice try though.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:25 pm to bmy
@bmy
u r completely wrong that 3 broken vertebrae is not a serious injury. Multiple M.D.'s have stated that to break a vertebra that extreme force, usually with a blunt object would have to be used.
u r completely wrong that 3 broken vertebrae is not a serious injury. Multiple M.D.'s have stated that to break a vertebra that extreme force, usually with a blunt object would have to be used.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:26 pm to CptBengal
Your right about that, but by 2:40 the only people left is the people who work at the bar and the parking lot is empty. Especially over where bogie's and shady's is.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:26 pm to ScoopAndScore
quote:Someone in the bar must have already given this statement to police.
Was Wing punched inside the bar?
I am starting to believe this isnt about Lowery at all and about one of the other 3, who must be connected to money or power.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:26 pm to TigerWoody
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. I am sure they have witness statements saying the opposite
Link?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:26 pm to TigerKnights
i'm beginning to think that the only thing worse than your command of the english language is your logic.
there is no implication whatsoever by the statement "while standing outside." it is simply a statement that the alleged attack took place outside as opposed to inside. if you choose to interpret that to mean that he was inside when he made the statement (as opposed to when the attack took place), that is an inference on your part that does not follow logically from the statement made.
there was nobody there when the cop first arrived. he returns sometime later and encounters this guy who said he was attacked. could it be possible that this "victim" left the scene before the cop arrived and then returned? maybe he left after getting in a fight with some football players and came back when he heard the cops were there. problem is, you don't know and we don't know. but you are performing mental gymnastics to try to support your point while criticizing others. get you yard in order first, then criticize your neighbors.
there is no implication whatsoever by the statement "while standing outside." it is simply a statement that the alleged attack took place outside as opposed to inside. if you choose to interpret that to mean that he was inside when he made the statement (as opposed to when the attack took place), that is an inference on your part that does not follow logically from the statement made.
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why would he then stick around
there was nobody there when the cop first arrived. he returns sometime later and encounters this guy who said he was attacked. could it be possible that this "victim" left the scene before the cop arrived and then returned? maybe he left after getting in a fight with some football players and came back when he heard the cops were there. problem is, you don't know and we don't know. but you are performing mental gymnastics to try to support your point while criticizing others. get you yard in order first, then criticize your neighbors.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:27 pm to TigerKnights
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However his name is not "redacted" either genius. It is spelled out quite clearly.
the frick?
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It in no way appears from this report that she was in any way connected with Lowery
This is true. You can't link the female witness to knowing Lowery.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:28 pm to Tigerrama55
quote:Like falling off a 4 wheeler or wrestling with friends?
@bmy
u r completely wrong that 3 broken vertebrae is not a serious injury. Multiple M.D.'s have stated that to break a vertebra that extreme force, usually with a blunt object would have to be used.
Nice try starting an acct to post that
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:29 pm to ZTiger87
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This is true. You can't link the female witness to knowing Lowery.
Not from this.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:29 pm to Cadello
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who must be connected to money or power.
yep. gotta be a conspiracy, right?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:29 pm to Cadello
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He's something worse.
Sorry, my apologies for misunderstanding the word redacted which I had only heard once in my life and assumed was used properly. My bad. Go frick yourself.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:30 pm to Cadello
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I am starting to believe this isnt about Lowery at all and about one of the other 3, who must be connected to money or power.
Wasn't there a very early report/rumor that one of the guys had a brother who was BRPD? Or did I just imagine that?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:35 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
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Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
because child murder = bar fight.
right, makes perfect sense.
Please don't tell me you have a degree from LSU. The similarities with Casey Anthony are related to the DA's handling. Your reading comprehension is below pre-K.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:37 pm to DEANintheYAY
If the players implicated had nothing to hide, why didnt they stick around to talk to cops?
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:37 pm to ScoopAndScore
JJ at Mc Donalds on Nichlson right now.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:37 pm to DEANintheYAY
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Not from this.
please tell me how you do it then.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:37 pm to Tigerdeck83
What is he having?
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