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re: 3rd party witness confirms Jefferson and Johns involvment...
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:13 pm to TigerKnights
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:13 pm to TigerKnights
quote:
Sounds to me like he was inside the bar, but I suppose you can say it doesn't explicitly say "I took Lowery's statement inside of the bar."
how could he have taken a statement from inside the bar at 2:40 AM when the bar was closed?
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:14 pm
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:15 pm to TigerKnights
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Sounds to me like he was inside the bar, but I suppose you can say it doesn't explicitly say "I took Lowery's statement inside of the bar."
Are you a ratard? Nothing in that statement even remotely sounds like he was in the bar.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:15 pm to Choctaw
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how could he have taken a statement from inside the bar at 2:40 AM when the bar was closed?
you do know that there are people in bars, long after 2:00 am, right?
Cleaning up, etc.
I imagine if there was police presence there, the bar was not "open for business", but very much so there would have been people still working inside and the officers allowed to enter the building.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:16 pm to Choctaw
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I still would like to know why we're only hearing one side of the story. Doesn't seem like very fair reporting.
maybe the other doesnt want it leaked?
DO you think these news outlets dont want to post it?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:16 pm to ssgtiger
Arrest his arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
START METT!!!!!!!!!! The FUTURE IS NOW!!!!!!!!
START METT!!!!!!!!!! The FUTURE IS NOW!!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:16 pm to ProjectP2294
quote: I find it a little hard to believe a false witness planted by Lowery would turn around and redact her statements.
I'm beginning to think you have no idea what this word means.
This
I'm beginning to think you have no idea what this word means.
This
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:17 pm to TigerKnights
Is shady's usually open past 2? When I waited tables around LSU, as someone above said, our bouncers got everyone involved outside ASAP...and if it happened in the parking lot,they kept it outside (nor would our managers or owners keep the place open late b/c of a fight). So I'm basing my thought that interviews took place outside on prior experience.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:17 pm to TigerKnights
Oh...we were usually out and at someone's apt drinking by 2:30. It actually doesn't take that long to hose the bar down, lock up the alch, get the money dealt with, etc. Had a cleaning crew come in the next morning to do the real cleaning.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:17 pm to CptBengal
quote:
you do know that there are people in bars, long after 2:00 am, right?
Cleaning up, etc.
I imagine if there was police presence there, the bar was not "open for business", but very much so there would have been people still working inside and the officers allowed to enter the building.
ok. if so....how does taking a statement from inside the bar at 2:40 prove he wasn't kicked out earlier that night?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:17 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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It doesn't say anything about being inside the bar, and yet, you still make that inference. Then, you use that inference to draw a conclusion that previous statements about the kid being inside are completely baseless.
No, Lowery states that while standing outside he was attacked. Which while not an explicit implication does seem to imply he is not currently standing outside. This inference is not necessary however as he was still somewhere in the vicinity of the bar. Either piece of information makes it unlikely that he was stalking a girl and kicked out of the bar. If this were the case why would he then stick around (inside or outside) of the bar especially after a fight and even moreso to speak to the police?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:18 pm to ssgtiger
quote:He's something worse.
Are you a ratard
Just as bad as he wants JJ prosecuted before the facts are in, there's some that want JJ let off if he indeed kicked someone in the head or stomped them.
I'm starting to feel like I'm the minority here, that just wants: The truth.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:18 pm to Choctaw
Anybody know Michael Barnett? He is a friend of a friend, just curious if he posts here?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:19 pm to Choctaw
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I still would like to know why we're only hearing one side of the story. Doesn't seem like very fair reporting.
I'd imagine LSU isn't making any statement at all. Can't get too far ahead of themselves throwing out baseless accusations against the other party.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:19 pm to TigerKnights
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Either piece of information makes it unlikely that he was stalking a girl and kicked out of the bar. If this were the case why would he then stick around (inside or outside) of the bar especially after a fight and even moreso to speak to the police?
How does him stating he was attacked outside prove he wasn't kicked out earlier. Your logic is all over the place
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:20 pm to TigerKnights
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while not an explicit implication
Is this even possible?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:21 pm to CptBengal
In the four years I worked at a bar in tigerland not once after a fight where the police were called did they bring anyone back into the bar after 2 am regardless if the fight was in the bar or out in the parking lot. The cops would come in if they needed one of our statements, but only they would come in.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:21 pm to DEANintheYAY
quote:No but just out of curiosity was he there?
Anybody know Michael Barnett?
In an earlier statement I said I thought someone in the crowd yelled "Michael"
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:21 pm to TigerKnights
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Where did it say the responding le took statements inside the bar?
"Upon my arrival at the bar, I came in contact with Andrew Lowery. Lowery advises that he was assaulted by the large crowd of people. Lowery advises that while standing outside in the parking lot of the bar, he observed several suspects..."
Sounds to me like he was inside the bar, but I suppose you can say it doesn't explicitly say "I took Lowery's statement inside of the bar."
It also says he returned at 2:40 in the morning..when the bar would be closed.
Where did it say the responding le took statements inside the bar?
"Upon my arrival at the bar, I came in contact with Andrew Lowery. Lowery advises that he was assaulted by the large crowd of people. Lowery advises that while standing outside in the parking lot of the bar, he observed several suspects..."
Sounds to me like he was inside the bar, but I suppose you can say it doesn't explicitly say "I took Lowery's statement inside of the bar."
It also says he returned at 2:40 in the morning..when the bar would be closed.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:21 pm to Choctaw
quote:
how does taking a statement from inside the bar at 2:40 prove he wasn't kicked out earlier that night?
didnt say it did. Just showing your comment about it being impossible because the bar was "closed" is wrong.
That's all.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:22 pm to TigerKnights
quote:
. Either piece of information makes it unlikely that he was stalking a girl and kicked out of the bar.
Not really.
quote:
If this were the case why would he then stick around (inside or outside) of the bar especially after a fight
Waiting for his ride possibly? Waiting for the players to come out?
quote:
and even moreso to speak to the police?
He wasn't there the 1st time the police showed up or the police did a terrible job looking.
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