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re: 3rd party witness confirms Jefferson and Johns involvment...
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:53 pm to bmy
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:53 pm to bmy
Hello the fricking marine that JJ kicked didnt receive any back injury whatsoever according to the reports.
So unless JJ kicked 2 people, very possible, then he shouldnt be responsible for this persons injuries. the injuries of the marine is what he is responsible for.
So unless JJ kicked 2 people, very possible, then he shouldnt be responsible for this persons injuries. the injuries of the marine is what he is responsible for.
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:53 pm to mattchewbocca
MD: i would just like to inform you with the good news sir that you only have 3 cracked vertabrae which may or may not give you problems for the rest of ur life... 
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:53 pm to bmy
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You think it's serious because you are ignorant.
What's your medical experience?
Curious
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:54 pm to dgnx6
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We still dont know what happened.
Exactly my point.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:55 pm to ZTiger87
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If the players implicated had nothing to hide, why didnt they stick around to talk to cops?
did you not read the report?
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olice received a call about the incident just after 1:30 a.m., the report says. When they arrived at Shady’s no one involved in the fight was present. A witness told the officer that people involved might have gone to Reggie’s Bar at 1176 Bob Petit Drive, the report says. The officer went to Reggie’s but did not find anyone involved in the altercation, the report says. When the officer returned to Shady’s, Lowrey was present and gave the officer his account of what occurred.
so 1/8 people involved were still there. And none were even there when the police originally arrived at the scene.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:55 pm to TheWhizzinator
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The man who was knocked unconscious and suffered contusions to his head, nose and hands is a Marine, police said.
I AM SO SICK OF READING THIS COMMENT BY THE ADVOCATE.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:56 pm to mattchewbocca
A spinal fracture is a serious injury.
Bmy has zero clue as to what he is talking about
Bmy has zero clue as to what he is talking about
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:58 pm to TheDoc
i agree doc, but JJ was said to have kicked the marine.No where int he report doe sit say the marine had any back injury.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:58 pm to ProjectP2294
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once again, is this even possible?
Yes, an explicit implication is the same as a direct implication. In this case I was drawing an implication that is unclear. Could also say an implied implication. Explicit describes the type of implication and not the implication itself.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:00 pm to dgnx6
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i agree doc, but JJ was said to have kicked the marine.No where int he report doe sit say the marine had any back injury.
It doesn't
The marine isn't the one with the vertebrae injury.
Misinformation runs rampant here.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:01 pm to TheWhizzinator
Based upon the police report (see TigerRag link in other thread) it appears that Victoria Long is the "third party," which is interesting, since she was able to advise BRPD at 6:10 am that Lowery was sleeping.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:03 pm to udtiger
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which is interesting, since she was able to advise BRPD at 6:10 am that Lowery was sleeping.
well then she is discredited as a third party witness, this is good
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:04 pm to TheDoc
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It doesn't The marine isn't the one with the vertebrae injury. Misinformation runs rampant here.
It just seem speople want JJ to go down in flames. But i would still want justice for all invovled. Including who is responsible for broken vertebrae. By the reports isnt JJ.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:04 pm to TheDoc
So let me get this straight body here knows for sure exactly what happened. Nobody knows who threw the first punch. Is that correct!!! I will check back when the thread reaches 300.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:04 pm to udtiger
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Based upon the police report (see TigerRag link in other thread) it appears that Victoria Long is the "third party," which is interesting, since she was able to advise BRPD at 6:10 am that Lowery was sleeping.
Yeah, after reading it again you can definitely link the witness in the report to Lowery.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:04 pm to dgnx6
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i agree doc, but JJ was said to have kicked the marine.No where int he report doe sit say the marine had any back injury.
It was assumed the marine was kicked and suffered the injury. However, if Lowery is the marine then it was the other victim that was injured by JJ. Lowery did not have serious injuries according to this report and did not have a boot print in his face. He also only went to the hospital after his father made him later that night. Likely it was the guy he rescued from the crowd and pulled into the truck. Seen at the beginning of the extended video.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:06 pm to TheWhizzinator
Some questions:
1)Everyone talks about Andrew Lowery - is he the Marine for sure?
2)The girl who made the statement in the police report is from Denham Springs. Perhaps she knew Johns because she is his age and he went to Central?
3) How do we know which of the victims has the broken vertebrae? How do we know he suffered it from JJ's alleged kick?
Whether JJ broke anyone's vertebrae is irrelevant to me. If he was involved in the fight and kicked someone, he should be suspended for being a dumbass if nothing else.
1)Everyone talks about Andrew Lowery - is he the Marine for sure?
2)The girl who made the statement in the police report is from Denham Springs. Perhaps she knew Johns because she is his age and he went to Central?
3) How do we know which of the victims has the broken vertebrae? How do we know he suffered it from JJ's alleged kick?
Whether JJ broke anyone's vertebrae is irrelevant to me. If he was involved in the fight and kicked someone, he should be suspended for being a dumbass if nothing else.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:06 pm to TigerKnights
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How ignorant are you?
i can promise, much less so than you.
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You could draw several different inferences from it, but none are relevant to the conclusion drawn.
i take it back. maybe i am because i have absolutely no idea what this statement means. you made several inferences based upon your interpretation of the police report. i merely pointed out to you that your inferences were not justified by the actual language of report.
i have not idea why the guy was there when the cop came back. i haven't made any statements about who did what in this situation. again, i only pointed out the problems with your inferences. i only know that when the cop was first there, he was unable to locate anybody that was involved. when he returned, he found this guy who claims he was assaulted by a large group of guys. nobody else present at that time contradicted his story. the fact that there is nothing in the report to indicate that there was a problem inside the bar means only that the police officer didn't get any such info that night. (while it is purely anecdotal, i worked at a campus bar for about 4 years while i was in school. we had numerous altercations where the police were called. the only time i gave a statement was when some slapdick pulled a knife. all of the other fights, the cops only asked who was involved, nothing else). if the cop got negative info, it would likely be in the report. the absence of negative info does not mean that the negative info does not exist. perhaps you should stick to math and leave the analytical thinking to others.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:07 pm to ZTiger87
You do realize the report outlines two witness statements from females. One whose name is redacted in the report and is likely Victoria Long. She names Lowery in her statement.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 2:07 pm to TigerKnights
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It was assumed the marine was kicked and suffered the injury. However, if Lowery is the marine then it was the other victim that was kicked by JJ.
Dont start rumors. Lowery is the one that was said to have been kicked by JJ, Lowery is the marine. Now its possible others involved could have been marines, but no where is that stated. No where was it stated jj kicked the driver.
This all started with headlines of Jordan Jefferson kicking a marine in the head while he was on the ground. This person is Andrew Lowery.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 2:09 pm
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