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Casablanca

Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:13 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:13 am
Finally watched this for the first time over the weekend. The gf and I both liked it a lot. It was so good IMO, that I am kinda ashamed that it's taken me this long to watch it.

I never really get into old movies, but seeing as how this is always at or near the top on "Best Movies of All Time" lists, I figured I needed to see it. And it didn't disappoint. I thought Bogart was great in it, as were a lot of the cast. I loved how Rick was basically a dick in the beginning, but later softened up a bit and ended up doing what he knew was the right thing (for the greater good, so to speak). I thought it was funny how every time they showed Ingrid Bergman on camera, they made it look so softly lit and "romanticized." Also, black and white movies are usually interesting to watch.

Overall, the plot was cool, and there was a good mix of action, tension, comedy, romance, etc. It's just a well-rounded film. And it's amazing, watching it, all the all-time classic movie lines throughout the movie. shite, in the last five minutes or so, they seem to come one right after the other (and yes, I've known for years that it's "Play it, Sam." and not "Play it again, Sam.").
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:16 am to
still havent seen it.....



Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:17 am to
Solid write up.
quote:

I never really get into old movies, but seeing as how this is always at or near the top on "Best Movies of All Time" lists, I figured I needed to see it. And it didn't disappoint.


Which begs the questions as usual: Are there certain qualities of films that are timeless, that can be understood to make a film so "great?"
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:22 am to
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still havent seen it.....

It really is a solid movie. I was definitely pleasantly surprised. Normally, at this point, you figure watching a movie that old and that iconic, it would be overrated. But it really was an enjoyable movie. I'll definitely watch it again at some point. And I'd definitely recommend it to people who haven't seen it yet.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:23 am to
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still havent seen it.



same here


Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:24 am to
Thisis definitely the old movie I show to people who say they don't like old movies. It's really a great film with wonderful performances, some iconic scenes, and just great dialogue. It really has earned it's rep.

Is there something that makes a film timeless? I think it is that the film looks like a time capsule of that time period. And our time looks nothing like it. It's actually rooted in a long lost time, which makes it timeless.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:25 am to
I trust your judgment on about 90% of movies/tv shows so that's a good sign

I also haven't seen Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai or most other classics
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:26 am to
still havent seen it either.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Which begs the questions as usual: Are there certain qualities of films that are timeless, that can be understood to make a film so "great?"

I think so. I think the best uality of this one is simply the story. It's simple enough. There are some papers that everyone wants, and they end up in the hands of Rick. Throw in a little love triangle, some fighting, a war background, and a black piano player who is hilarious, and it works.

But the characters are pretty interesting as well. Rick is awesomely douchey, yet an everyman at the same time. Isla is a classic beauty and the typical "I don't know what I want" woman. Lazlo is the "unlikeable hero." Sam is the witty black worker (Fresh Prince fans will love him). Throw in the cops, some nazis, a couple of gunfights, and it's a win.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:26 am to
Now you just need to take the next step and watch other classic movies.

It seems a lot of people watch Casablanca or Hitchcock movies find out they like them a whole lot but then don't venture out any further.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:28 am to
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I also haven't seen Citizen Kane

That one is next on my list. And oddly enough, I do expect that one to be a bit boring and overrated.

Going into Casablanca, I actually did expect to like it.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:32 am to
quote:

some iconic scenes, and just great dialogue

Big time. The iconic scenes and lines are everywhere in this one.

"Here's looking at you, kid."
"Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
"Play it [again], Sam."
"We'll always have Paris."
"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."
"Round up the usual suspects."

Good shite. It's cool seeing/hearing those lines as you watch it and realizing that you're basically watching history unfold on film (because the scenes and lines are SO iconic now).
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:33 am to
quote:

I also haven't seen Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai
I love Citizen Kane, but I think its a movie for movie geeks (and history geeks - it helps if you know a lot about William Randolph Hearst). Seven Samurai is a pretty long film and can be a bit of a beating to newcomers.

I love both films, but they are more "work", than Casablanca, which is just fun from the word go.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38600 posts
Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:34 am to
Citizen Kane is a much better movie than Casablanca. I am not a huge fan of Casablanca.
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:45 am to
SPOILER ALERT - need to get off my arse and watch Citizen Kane. Casablanca is great. The themes are timeless although it is important to understand that period of history i.e. the relationship betweeen the NAZIs and Vichy France and provinces like French Morocco.

What is timeless is that almost every great story in history from The Iliad to Romeo and Juliet to Spiderman is about a man's love for a woman. This version is interesting in that the man is a tough solider of fortune type. The best part is that he lets her go at the end - that's true love way above selfishness or lust.

Posted by onomatopoeia
schwing
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:50 am to
I've been wanting to see this movie for years, but never have. I'm going to try to watch it this week.

I genuinely enjoy old movies, so I'm expecting to like this one.

I probably need to sit down and watch all the old movies I've been putting off.. like North by Northwest and Lawrence of Arabia, etc.

and FWIW, I appreciated Citizen Kane, but wasn't overly entertained with the movie itself.
This post was edited on 5/17/11 at 8:51 am
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 5/17/11 at 8:57 am to
I thought Claude Rains as Renault stole the movie
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I also haven't seen Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai or most other classics


Out of Citizen Kane, Cassablanca and Seven Samurai I'd put them in this order: Seven Samurai, Citizen Kane then Cassablanca.

Just to stick more on subject, I personally prefer Citizen Kane better for some of the reasons stated already. But mainly I just felt the story was better. And the way it was told was also better. I remember thinking at the beginning of the movie "Did they just tell me the whole story in 5 minutes?" Well yeah, they kind of did. But then they go in detail and piece in the important parts of his life like a puzzle. Most people know famous classic movie lines even if they haven't seen the movie. Citizen Kane doesn't rely on that, you don't watch the movie for the first time and say "Hey! There's that line, that's an awesome line!" Not that there's anything wrong with that but that adds to the mystic of certain movies. Citizen Kane just relies on good acting (Orson Welles was amazing) and great story telling.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23901 posts
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:26 am to
I always found it funny that Casablanca was a throwaway movie for Bergman and Bogie. They really didn't expect it to amount to much. These throwaway parts ended up becoming a large part of their legacy as actors. Bergman wasn't that successful of an actress and Bogart had never played a romantic lead. Somehow they managed to nail it.

Funny how that works out sometimes.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106894 posts
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:33 am to
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I thought Claude Rains as Renault stole the movie


Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.


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This post was edited on 5/17/11 at 9:34 am
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