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Why do we oversign?

Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:21 pm
Posted by tailg8r
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:21 pm
I really wish we wouldn't, it makes us look bad. Why do we repeatedly do it?
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:21 pm to
because everyone does it
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
59024 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:26 pm to
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I really wish everyone wouldn't, it makes everyone look bad.


FIFY
Posted by Tiger Phanatick
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
4103 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:27 pm to
Its like a try out system the way i see. Sign as many as you want.

The weak will fall out and move around. Only the strong survive. Its a form of cheating IMO. but if its legal do it to stay competitive.

But at this rate we will have 7-10 guys every year leaving our program. Seeing Matt Allen start for TEx Ags was a brutal reminder of how much talent we have. (although I think he would have started for us this year nad possibly last but I dont know where he was on the depth chart before bailing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425566 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:29 pm to
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Why do we oversign?

calhoun
chris toliver
chris davenport
karnell hatcher
theriot
john williams
ricky dixon
ryan periloux
zhamal thomas
derrick odom
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71015 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:34 pm to
Not every kid turns out to have the talent, attitude, drive, or smarts needed to be a productive member of the team. I imagine the coaches are more willing to overlook a slight lack of talent if there are no attitude or effort problems. But the fact remains, some kids choose to do things that make them expendable, and for that reason, we need people to slot in behind them.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 8:41 pm to
because nothing's free in life
Posted by Hand
far side of the moon
Member since Dec 2007
2065 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:22 pm to
Because the term is student-athlete and to not be held accountable for both is hypocritical.

Because some guys don’t fully rebound from injury.

Because some guys don’t work for it.

Because some guys put other priorities ahead of working in the classroom and on the field.

Because coaches are projecting how a 16-year old will play when he's 21 or 22-years old.

Because some guys don't have the mental or physical toughness or ability to play a very demanding sport.

Because sometimes you sign a future all-conference player the next class.

Because some guys put everything they have and do all that the coaches ask of them and it's the coaches’ responsibility to be honest and tell the player they’ll have a better chance of playing a game that they love elsewhere.

Because some guys are not okay being role players.

Because you take the best players available.

Because some recruits don't make the grades. Some do.

Because some recruits don't make up their minds or jump ship at the last minute and some media outlets openly encourage and profit from these actions yet vilify coaches that did not want to be left not meeting a position need.

Because when the perfect storm happens and you’ve been burned the year before and surprisingly more than the allowed recruits get eligible, you ask in-state recruits (because of TOPS and hopefully love for the program) or recruits from well-to-do families (to afford a semester of classes) or legacy recruits (because of loyalty) or some combination of the above to gray-shirt to help make the numbers work.

Because ESPfrickingN doesn't know how to properly research a story and because they are in the gossip business instead of real-life-actual sports reporting.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84949 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:27 pm to
I don't like it either but we have to do what we have to do to keep up with the Bamas of the world
Posted by TBama93k
Member since Nov 2010
8056 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:51 pm to
everyone does it
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47820 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Why do we overeat?


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I really wish we wouldn't, it makes us look bad. Why do we repeatedly do it?
Posted by ANAKINSKY
colorado
Member since Jan 2005
6138 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:18 am to
why does it
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makes us look bad
??

Who thinks it make us look bad? Some dweeb sports writer?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16850 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:24 am to
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I really wish we wouldn't, it makes us look bad. Why do we repeatedly do it?


The real answer to this is extremely simple.

Most of the best recruits are the last to commit often waiting until NSD, and if you fill up before then, you'll never get the best since they wait until NSD.

Conversely, if you leave spots open for the best to commit on NSD, then they dont commit to you, youre left holding available schollys.

You got to try to balance it...
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 9:25 am
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33029 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:45 am to
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it makes us look bad


Why?

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I really wish we wouldn't


I'm glad we do. The SEC is in an arms race with coaches, facilities and players. If you sign with an SEC school, you know the score before hand. People need to stop being such pansies about this. It's not a big deal.

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Why do we repeatedly do it?


LINK
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:04 am to
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Underachieving students lose TOPS scholarships each year, and their parents have to deal with it,
Not a fan of over signing. Probably the worse think about Coach Miles.

You mention Tops. How about if a Louisiana kid doesn't get an offer from LSU so he takes an offer to say Miss State and 2 years later is told his services are no longer needed, does that LA kis lose his Tops here at LSU?
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4283 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 11:47 am to
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it makes us look bad


i wouldn't call a self-serving smear piece by ESPN making us look bad

99% of the time it works out fine
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