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re: Spencer Ware > than Storm Johnson

Posted on 1/10/11 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 10:58 am to
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the only point i'm making is we have to trust the coaches evaluation. they hit a home run with ware, t.m, reed, and it appears simon.


Agreed. Between what Wiliford, Mathieu, Mo Claiborne, P.J. Lonergan and Kelvin Sheppard have done compared to how little they were "regarded/ranked", I've learned to give this coaching staff the benifit of the doubt on player evaluations.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18106 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:04 am to
I hope Ware is still planning to play baseball this spring. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do on the diamond.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:39 am to
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Spencer Ware > than Storm Johnson




do we really know this right now?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:51 am to
quote:

do we really know this right now?


well, based on the information we have, yes. an accurate pass by j.j. in the vandy game and he would have thrown for a t.d., rushed for a t.d. and reived for a t.d. as a true frosh with a all s.e.c. r.b. ahead of him.

i think we have seen ware is the total running back. vision, power, speed, hands, and ability to block.

i realize there is time. however, i think spencer is the total package. a m. ingram type guy. if johnson was this guy, surely he would have shown flashes this year on a miami team that wasn't as good as lsu.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279414 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:57 am to
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if johnson was this guy, surely he would have shown flashes this year on a miami team that wasn't as good as lsu.



he had 9 carries for a 13 YPC average

Ware couldnt have had more than 20-25 carries i would think
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33973 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:57 am to
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for all those who were upset about us taking ware over johnson.



That is not how it happened. People were upset that we didn't take Storm's commitment.

People were OK with it once we got Ware. And then once we saw Ware in the AAA game....we forgot all about Storm.

I don't recall anybody ever being pissed that we passed on Storm for Ware.

It was more like they were pissed because it looked like we were just passing on Storm. Ware hadn't committed yet.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33973 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:58 am to
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Most people on here did want Storm, but I don't remember anyone questioning why we took Ware.





Exactly.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33026 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I hope Ware is still planning to play baseball this spring. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do on the diamond.


I really doubt it. Too valuable at football and a load of players in front of him. IMO, I don't think he is going to really see the field at LSU.

Did we ever find out what happened to Marcus Davis?
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 2:42 pm to
It's not even close. Ware was a legitimate 5*. The early-season ankle sprain slowed his progress in the game plan quite a bit fwiw. It was bad enough that there was consideration given to a medical rs for a week or two there. Kid's got game and then some.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18106 posts
Posted on 1/22/11 at 6:52 pm to
The Advocate -- Miles Clears Ware to Play Baseball

I wonder if Ware is going to be good enough to earn playing time for Mainieri this year. I feel sure that he has the speed and arm to play the outfield, but it will be interesting to see if he can hit college pitching.

I remember that one of his main reasons for choosing LSU was that he could play both sports, but I don't remember the details on how he was regarded as a baseball recruit. Anyone care to fill me in?
Posted by fidebo69
Member since Oct 2008
133 posts
Posted on 1/22/11 at 7:23 pm to
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if johnson was this guy, surely he would have shown flashes this year on a miami team that wasn't as good as lsu.



he had 9 carries for a 13 YPC average

Ware couldnt have had more than 20-25 carries i would think




10 receptions in limited action for ware, as well. very good hands.

not that it doesn't count, but johnson's stats were pumped significantly by a 70-yard run against s.florida.

Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72571 posts
Posted on 1/22/11 at 7:49 pm to
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Agreed. Between what Wiliford, Mathieu, Mo Claiborne, P.J. Lonergan and Kelvin Sheppard


one of these does not belong with the others
Posted by BengalBen
Midwest
Member since May 2008
2233 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 9:13 am to
Was curious...here's Storm's stats for 2010...

10 games
9 carries
119 yards
13.2 yds per carry
1 TD
71 yd long run
1 reception for 9 yards
1 assisted tackle

Also had 9 kick returns for 194 yards = 21.5 avg

Ware :
11 Games
24 carries
175 yards
7.3 average
1 TD
26 yd long run

Passing: 1 for 1, 39 yards, 1 TD.

Receiving: 10 rec 101 yds 10.1 avg 29 long

Ware had 2 solo and 1 assisted tackle = 3 total

Not saying one is better than the other...just bored with a foot of snow on the ground outside. I know I'd take Ware over Johnson though. I think he's a better all around player and has great athleticism. Did a standing back flip at the AA game last year. Not a burner but has great lateral movement, balance and exceptional hands. Can't wait to see him get more PT next year.
This post was edited on 1/23/11 at 9:28 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425485 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

for all those who were upset about us taking ware over johnson.

who was upset over this?

people wanted both, if anything. i don't remember anyone wanting johnson over ware
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12495 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 1:09 pm to
Both are good backs.I personally like Ware better because he just has those natural running insticnts that aren't taught.Storm could've been good here as well.He has much better speed and is a good runner but it worked out well for us.Ware's ability as a reciever is also very good and i think will pay big dividends down the line.
Posted by LSUFAN09
ga
Member since Jul 2009
47 posts
Posted on 1/29/11 at 3:46 pm to
Well, with a new coach at Miami, I think all comments on Ware > Storm will change drastically.But, I'll let you all wait and see because I already know. Miles did what he thought was best, but Storm will be the MAN.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 1/29/11 at 6:57 pm to
Looking back, I'm glad LSU didn't take his commitment due to the scholly reduction. That spot can be taken up by much thinner positions(QB, LB) rather than adding another log to the log jam. Do we really want Ware, Ford, Blue, Gore, Hilliard, Hill, Magee, AND STORM?
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