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Debate: Contraction A Good Idea?
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:16 pm
Did anyone else see this? the main focus is on how horrible the New Orleans fan base is.
As the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires on July 1, 2011, the Owners have thrown down the gauntlet: they need to spend less money. To that end all sorts of possibilities will be discussed to cut costs, including the possibility of contraction. Is it feasible?
The New Orleans Hornets are 9-1 and are undefeated at home. They have arguably the games most-exciting player in Chris Paul and have already hosted All-Stars like Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Dirk Nowitzki this season.
So what's with all the empty seats?
Around 15% of the Hornets' seats have gone unsold so far this season as attendance is generously listed at 14,419 per game. Considering the 5-5 Cavaliers are bringing in over 20,000 fans per game, there appears to be a disconnect between success on the hardwood and at the box office.
The effect of New Orleans' economy can't be overlooked. And while nobody wants to deprive Louisianans of their team, the NBA can't sit around waiting for job growth that could take years.
1. The cities that can support losers (example: New York City).
2. The cities that can sell a winner, but not a loser (example: Philadelphia, Detroit)
3. The cities that can't even sell a winner (example: New Orleans)
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As the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement expires on July 1, 2011, the Owners have thrown down the gauntlet: they need to spend less money. To that end all sorts of possibilities will be discussed to cut costs, including the possibility of contraction. Is it feasible?
The New Orleans Hornets are 9-1 and are undefeated at home. They have arguably the games most-exciting player in Chris Paul and have already hosted All-Stars like Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Dirk Nowitzki this season.
So what's with all the empty seats?
Around 15% of the Hornets' seats have gone unsold so far this season as attendance is generously listed at 14,419 per game. Considering the 5-5 Cavaliers are bringing in over 20,000 fans per game, there appears to be a disconnect between success on the hardwood and at the box office.
The effect of New Orleans' economy can't be overlooked. And while nobody wants to deprive Louisianans of their team, the NBA can't sit around waiting for job growth that could take years.
1. The cities that can support losers (example: New York City).
2. The cities that can sell a winner, but not a loser (example: Philadelphia, Detroit)
3. The cities that can't even sell a winner (example: New Orleans)
LINK
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Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:18 pm to Alisyn Camerota
This must be a Boom alter. 
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:20 pm to Alisyn Camerota
The Hornets aren't going anywhere.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:22 pm to Alisyn Camerota
can this lesbo alter go away. please and thanks
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:22 pm to mattz1122
If the team continues to half decent, then obviously attendance will indeed pickup around Feb. However the point is that the fan base around here is awful. just because LSU and the Saints are playing is simply not an excuse. you don't think that any other NBA team has to deal with competing with other college and pro teams either? The Hornets also offer the absolute best and CHEAPEST ticket packages and single game tickets as well. The bottom line is that people in Louisiana are cheap and only support teams whenever they are at the top.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 10:59 pm to Alisyn Camerota
You have to be an alter.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:00 pm to Alisyn Camerota
We get it - you hate the Hornets.
Stats don't lie, Chris Paul has been a complete joke in 4th qtrs
Ah another episode of the "Chris Paul 2nd Half Disappearance Show"
Another home game, another pathetic attendance by the fans
And you're gay
What are some of the best gay bars in Baton Rouge besides Splash?
And you're obviously an altar.
Got caught masturbating by my pastor....
Quit trying to be Ghazi 2.0
Stats don't lie, Chris Paul has been a complete joke in 4th qtrs
Ah another episode of the "Chris Paul 2nd Half Disappearance Show"
Another home game, another pathetic attendance by the fans
And you're gay
What are some of the best gay bars in Baton Rouge besides Splash?
And you're obviously an altar.
Got caught masturbating by my pastor....
Quit trying to be Ghazi 2.0
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:09 pm to Port City
WTF has to happen before the banhammer drops?
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:12 pm to Port City
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:12 pm to Port City
I don't hate the Hornets at all. I love the team, but am just concerned with the way Paul has been performing. I don't see any reason to turn the other cheek and deny the facts. We all want to see them do well, but Paul just simply isn't 100%. why is it so wrong to question that?
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:17 pm to Alisyn Camerota
quote:It's not. It's wrong when you build a whole persona on those specific things and start countless redundant threads that illustrate a clear subversive agenda on a forum dedicated to Hornets fans.
why is it so wrong to question that?
This post was edited on 11/25/10 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:30 pm to Alisyn Camerota
quote:
I don't hate the Hornets at all. I love the team
Despite being on the same site as the Rant, people on here aren't retarded.
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they will win 48-50 games AT BEST and probably land somewhere around the 7th or 8th seed only to get knocked out in the 1st round.
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11-3 doesn't lie but people will think differently if the Hornets lose tomorrow and Sunday...this could very easily turn into a 4 game losing streak.
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Ariza is nothing more than a glorified Devin Brown...
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On most NBA teams David West would be a 3rd scoring option, not a number 1 or number 2 scoring option like he is on the Hornets. West is a good player, but undersized at his position, doesn't play defense, and tries to do way too much with the ball. However in fairness to him he is forced into that role so offensively he's doing the best he can. Like I said West is pretty much just a poor mans Amare or even a poor mans Chris Bosh.
And about 100 others on attendance, CP3 and anything else to get under people's skin. You got called out for being an alter the second you created an account - just start a new name and then we can start this process all over again in a few weeks.
This post was edited on 11/25/10 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:36 pm to Port City
My god. You are so negative. I bitch to myself about it but just let it go alter. Louisiana isn't a basketball state I can't believe you brought up new York and whatever other state. I hate the fact La isn't a basketball state but what can I do about it. NOTHING. Screw them and quit bitching and complaining.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 11:50 pm to Alisyn Camerota
Here are my two cents why the Hornets are struggling with attendance. In Louisiana the two most popular teams have been the Saints and LSU. They've been here for a while. The Hornets got here in 2002. Not recent, but not a while back. But more importantly the Hornets play in the NBA. Let me explain.
The NBA, more so than the NFL, college football, or college basketball seems to be, from what I've experienced, a league for a young people. The older generations, our dads and grandparents, have fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years. They still like the competition, but a league filled with players being overpaid and guys whining about playing time has turned them off.
I enjoy watching the NBA (even though the officiating and play can be frustrating) and I hope the Hornets continue to win. I like having a professional basketball team in New Orleans. But for someone like my dad it's a bit different. He likes the Hornets, he hopes they do good, but again he, like other parents, have fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years. There is a huge generational gap. So my dad may support the team, but as far as getting season tickets and what not that is a little distant. (of course living out of town does not help). Add in the fact the Hornets are relatively new in his mind and that's why the support may not be showing up like we think it should be for the Hornets.
I am not saying all parents are Anti-NBA or Anti-Hornets. I am just saying the parent crowd from what I have seen has fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years.
If the Hornets continue to win, people will show up. But again I think it does deal a lot with a generational gap.
Just my 2 cents.
The NBA, more so than the NFL, college football, or college basketball seems to be, from what I've experienced, a league for a young people. The older generations, our dads and grandparents, have fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years. They still like the competition, but a league filled with players being overpaid and guys whining about playing time has turned them off.
I enjoy watching the NBA (even though the officiating and play can be frustrating) and I hope the Hornets continue to win. I like having a professional basketball team in New Orleans. But for someone like my dad it's a bit different. He likes the Hornets, he hopes they do good, but again he, like other parents, have fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years. There is a huge generational gap. So my dad may support the team, but as far as getting season tickets and what not that is a little distant. (of course living out of town does not help). Add in the fact the Hornets are relatively new in his mind and that's why the support may not be showing up like we think it should be for the Hornets.
I am not saying all parents are Anti-NBA or Anti-Hornets. I am just saying the parent crowd from what I have seen has fallen out of touch with the NBA over the years.
If the Hornets continue to win, people will show up. But again I think it does deal a lot with a generational gap.
Just my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 12:16 am
Posted on 11/26/10 at 1:37 am to Akit1
Again the only comeback people have is that I am an "Alter" and am just trying to get under skin. Funny how anything negative towards the team is deemed "trolling" on here. This is my first account to ever post with on TD, but if you want to think I am an established person trying to "troll" you go right ahead.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 2:42 am to Alisyn Camerota
quote:
Again the only comeback people have is that I am an "Alter"
I guess you didn't read the entire thread as people pointed out plenty of good reasons why to not take you serious.
The Hornets are 10-3 and pretty much ALL of your posts are completely negative towards them.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 7:07 am to shel311
quote:
The Hornets are 10-3 and pretty much ALL of your posts are completely negative towards them.
*11-3
Posted on 11/26/10 at 7:16 am to Alisyn Camerota
OP is tits on a boar.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 7:40 am to Alisyn Camerota
quote:
Again the only comeback people have is that I am an "Alter" and am just trying to get under skin. Funny how anything negative towards the team is deemed "trolling" on here. This is my first account to ever post with on TD, but if you want to think I am an established person trying to "troll" you go right ahead
Whether you're an "alter" or not, I don't really know. However, you are undoubtedly a phony when it comes to your purpose on the board.
Posted on 11/26/10 at 7:57 am to Alisyn Camerota
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just because LSU and the Saints are playing is simply not an excuse
Actually it is. Saints and LSU football tickets are kind of expensive. There's a reason Hornets attendance typcially has to wait for football season to end, free time isn't the only factor, free entertainment dollars play a part as well. If you want to say New Orleans isn't the best NBA market I can agree with that, but it's far from the worst. Last season the Grizzlies, Bobcats and Hawks all had more success, the last 2 being playoff teams, but all 3 had a lower percentage of tickets sold.
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