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Public high schools should refuse to play private schools

Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:11 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:11 am
When St. Thomas Aquinas of Florida smashed Upper Arlington of Ohio 52-7 on Saturday (and it would have been a lot worse if the starters hadn't been pulled early), at least four players who played significant roles on the winning side were at different high schools last year.

Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.

At the very least, playoffs for state championships should not include private schools.
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:12 am to
Don't public high schools in Louisiana win state titles far more often than privates?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73175 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:13 am to
because schools like West Monroe, Hoover, Destrahan, etc cant be successful
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:14 am to
quote:

When St. Thomas Aquinas of Florida smashed Upper Arlington of Ohio 52-7 on Saturday (and it would have been a lot worse if the starters hadn't been pulled early), at least four players who played significant roles on the winning side were at different high schools last year.


They smashed them because Upper Arlington isn't on the same level as the #1 school in Ohio, let alone the entire country. Public v Private makes no difference here. And in Ohio they are pretty equal...
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
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45218 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:15 am to
Other than John Curtis and Evangel, which private schools in LA have won state championships recently?
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Rex


this thread didn't go as planned I take it
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:20 am to
Maybe more so in other states, but I don't think it is the case in Louisiana.
Posted by CommanderHeavy
Downtown Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
3386 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:31 am to
It is a bit unfair how public schools are limited to the area but private schools can lure kids from all surrounding areas and any hood in the city.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.


well in this case an above average Ohio HS team got to:

1) play the #1 team in the country

2) play in the Horseshoe at tOSU

3) play live in front of a national TV audience on ESPN

4) make a lot of money for their program with a large gate

that's why
Posted by barry
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.


God will do that. He hates you.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:42 am to
this is a huge problem in ohio high school basketball, football not so much, although the big public schools "recruit" the better players to go to school there via open enrollment, etc.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25240 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 11:53 am to
I still remember when I was in 5th or 6th grade our team made the state semi-finals only to lose by 10 or so to some manufactured private school.

Needless to say, since then I've been completely for making private schools do their own thing.
Posted by MobTownForeverLSU
Mob Town, AL
Member since Aug 2008
155 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:57 pm to
Private schools in Alabama are forced to play up. each student day for a private school is counted as 1.87 student days(I think). It's some random formula making all private schools to play up at least one division from the actual enrollment.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

When St. Thomas Aquinas of Florida smashed Upper Arlington of Ohio 52-7 on Saturday (and it would have been a lot worse if the starters hadn't been pulled early), at least four players who played significant roles on the winning side were at different high schools last year.

Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.


FWIW, the next day, a nationally unranked public Ohio school beat a private school ranked #29 (ESPN) in the country out of southern California by two TDs (and had the ball at the two yard line when the game ended, and could have called a TO or no huddled if they really wanted to put another one in).
Posted by LSUtigerfan1025
Baton Rouge and Crowley, LA
Member since Aug 2004
609 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

When St. Thomas Aquinas of Florida smashed Upper Arlington of Ohio 52-7 on Saturday (and it would have been a lot worse if the starters hadn't been pulled early), at least four players who played significant roles on the winning side were at different high schools last year.

Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.


This does not happen in Louisiana. If a student transfers to a private school in Louisiana after starting high school for a public school he has to sit out 2 years (technically 2 years the rest of the current season and the next season). If they transfer from a public school to a private school their freshman year they have to sit out for 1 year (unless ruled eligible by the LHSAA). Case in point Hurricane Katrina (kids were allowed to play for other schools without waiting because in most cases their schools were no longer open).

So while your argument hold for Florida private schools. In Louisiana it does not hold up.
This post was edited on 8/31/09 at 1:35 pm
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 8/31/09 at 5:12 pm to
I think you make a terrible argument. I know I go to a private school, they get more wins, but according to state titles, more public schools win them than private schools. That is what happens.
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