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Article on “The Shift”

Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:50 am
Posted by pgaddxn
between here and there
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:50 am
Bat Digest - Would You Shift

Pretty good read if you like the numbers, tendencies and strategy of baseball. Basically gives some data on spray charts and discusses tendencies and if you should or shouldn’t shift extreme, shade or play it straight up.

There’s been a lot of talk about the shift and everyone seems pretty black and white on if they love it or hate it. Seems to be a lot of unrelenting opinions on how and when to apply it as well.

Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10846 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:57 am to
Good baseball strategy that might also be bad for the game. Wonder if college will go the way of MLB.
Posted by MrWalkingMan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Aug 2010
8499 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:01 am to
quote:

that might also be bad for the game.

It’s not bad for the game. It’s bad for fans who get irked by it and tune out of games because their favorite players who only know how to hit for exit velo don’t have the plate skills to beat to it
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18684 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:10 am to
quote:

It’s not bad for the game. It’s bad for fans who get irked by it and tune out of games because their favorite players who only know how to hit for exit velo don’t have the plate skills to beat to it

So why did the MLB ban the shift? Do they not have the plate skills either?
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7150 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:11 am to
It's bad because pitchers need to be able to pitch to the shift, aka away from the hitters pull side with a downward motion, but college pitchers don't have the ability to do it consistently.
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1911 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Wonder if college will go the way of MLB.


we can hope
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10846 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:15 am to
quote:

MrWalkingManquote


This sounds like the take of someone who’s never played baseball. Kids spend their entire lives playing the game and never play against the shift until they get to college. So, the game completely changes overnight for these players.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 7:17 am
Posted by MrWalkingMan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Aug 2010
8499 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:30 am to
quote:

So why did the MLB ban the shift?

Because you can’t get TikTok views on a groundout into the shift

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18684 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:54 am to
So would you say viewership going down is a good or bad thing for the game?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:54 am to
Muh "plate skills"

Posted by louisianamotocross
Member since Sep 2023
338 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:05 am to
quote:

It’s not bad for the game. It’s bad for fans who get irked by it and tune out of games because their favorite players who only know how to hit for exit velo don’t have the plate skills to beat to it


This is such a lazy take to me. Rules are in every sport to make the game more exciting(more offense typically).
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12181 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:16 am to
If it makes fans:

quote:

tune out of games


Then its

quote:

bad for the game
Posted by KiffinLagniappe
Member since Mar 2026
12 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:38 am to
In football you can play any sort of defense you see fit to counter the opponent, basketball you can play any defense to counter the opponent, in soccer defensive strategies can change as well.

But baseball... no sir offense takes priority. They already adjusted the balls to fly further, allowed torpedo bats, and let the players challenge strike calls (which I agree with). Along with outlawing the major shift.

The way I see it you need a pitcher and a catcher and what you decide to do with the other 7 guys in order to get outs is completely up to you. That is how baseball is meant to be played. It's a chess match. Sometimes it works, others it doesn't. But two things are certain, hitters don't need any more help than they've already gotten, and views aren't down because offense is an issue.

Those who want it outlawed aren't fans of baseball, they're fans of ball hit bat and go far and number on scoreboard get bigger.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
3629 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:47 am to
"The Shift" works great against LSU, all the newcomers seem to hit right into it.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65327 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:55 am to
quote:

In football you can play any sort of defense you see fit to counter the opponent,


Except touch a receiver after 5 yards downfield.

Except have your hand glance the top of a qb's helmet.

Except make a hard tackle.

Except a cornerback isn't allowed to sprint downfield with a receiver and not see an underthrown ball which causes him to bump the receiver who is now stopping... 35 yard penalty, first down for the offense.
Posted by louisianamotocross
Member since Sep 2023
338 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:44 am to
quote:

In football you can play any sort of defense you see fit to counter the opponent, basketball you can play any defense to counter the opponent, in soccer defensive strategies can change as well. But baseball... no sir offense takes priority. They already adjusted the balls to fly further, allowed torpedo bats, and let the players challenge strike calls (which I agree with). Along with outlawing the major shift. The way I see it you need a pitcher and a catcher and what you decide to do with the other 7 guys in order to get outs is completely up to you. That is how baseball is meant to be played. It's a chess match. Sometimes it works, others it doesn't. But two things are certain, hitters don't need any more help than they've already gotten, and views aren't down because offense is an issue. Those who want it outlawed aren't fans of baseball, they're fans of ball hit bat and go far and number on scoreboard get bigger.


This is just flat out false.
Posted by KiffinLagniappe
Member since Mar 2026
12 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:52 am to
Alignment buddy, alignment. In baseball that's what a shift is, in football that's called pre-snap alignment. Last I checked baseball isn't a contact sport.

Would you like another straw man to attack?
Posted by KiffinLagniappe
Member since Mar 2026
12 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:53 am to
Which part? Or is it just all wrong? Care to provide a counter argument...that's usually how this works?
Posted by louisianamotocross
Member since Sep 2023
338 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:56 am to
The other post replying to you does a good job of it. Argue with him. You have a narrow view of just defensive setups without taking into account other defensive rules. It’s the same concept except one is defensive alignment and the other is defensive action.
Posted by KiffinLagniappe
Member since Mar 2026
12 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 10:08 am to
Y'all speak of this as if defense is the only side of the ball that can be penalized in football. False starts, holding, illegal shift, ineligible player downfield, OPI, etc.

Baseball is not a contact sport, football is. There are a lot of similarities before the ball is snapped/hit after that is where my comparison ends because that's when the sports are no longer similar.

Just say you wanna see more hits and runs because it makes baseball more fun to watch and that'll tell everyone what they probably already know.
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