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Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance

Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:29 pm
It is THIS type of selective activism that drives some Catholics away from the church, and makes non-Catholics look derisively at an organization that casts stones before doing some serious internal cleansing.

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Her lifelong commitment to public service, leadership, and advocacy for justice reflects the very values that define an NDNU education and the enduring legacy of the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur," Martin said. "During this 175th anniversary year of the Sisters in California, her presence powerfully affirms the impact of faith-inspired education on the world."

If she and that order of sisters are examples of faith-inspired education, who can complain about public schools?!?!

Pelosi, who has called opposing abortion "sinful," will speak at the university’s commencement ceremony on May 2.

In 2023, Pelosi posted on X, then known as Twitter, calling out Republicans for passing the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which requires doctors to provide care for infants who survive a failed abortion.


Pope Leo, are you paying attention?!?!
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8647 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:30 pm to
Pope Leo is a demonic force trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church.

Trump was right to call him out. He’s a fake pope.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20766 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:34 pm to
Hide the sacramental wine.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:36 pm to
This school has less than 300 total students enrolled.

Pope Leo very likely doesnt even know this school exists.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14013 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:39 pm to
I don't care if it has FEWER than 10 students! It proclaims itself Catholic, is certain to be under the auspices of some Catholic ruling body, and is allied with a Catholic order of nuns. '

This is the type of infected puss that needs to be cleansed before the Vatican becomes involved in geopolitics.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:40 pm to
We sure do hate Catholics here on tigerdroppings.

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:43 pm to
Nope, just the 'holier than thou' and 'we know best' attitudes.

Going back to casting that first stone!

Any denomination that would give Biden and Pelosi communion is contemptible.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance
Supporting abortion, piece-by-piece.

“I will not enter into debate. The things that I say are certainly not meant as attacks on anyone. The message of the Gospel is very clear: ‘Blessed are the peacemakers,’” Leo said.

The Pope said, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers,’ but had he written it, perhaps it would have been ‘Blessed are the piecemakers.'
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14013 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:44 pm to
We all know that it's 'blessed are the cheesemakers' or perhaps, to be more inclusive, 'blessed are the dairy product makers.' And if you don't know where that comes from.......
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71977 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:45 pm to
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I don't care if it has FEWER than 10 students! It proclaims itself Catholic, is certain to be under the auspices of some Catholic ruling body, and is allied with a Catholic order of nuns. '

This is the type of infected puss that needs to be cleansed before the Vatican becomes involved in geopolitics.


Nobody is forcing you to agree with the Pope. Just say you disagree with him and move on.

Saying the Pope isn't allowed to comment on a global war that impacts millions in his flock because Pelosi is speaking to 20 kids at a college campus is rather silly
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14013 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:47 pm to
Oh dear, having trouble with the big picture are we?!?!

For starters, Leo should sit down with Pelosi, Biden, and all the other 'Catholics' who support abortion and give them a refresh in Catholic doctrine.

Illustrate, through actions, what you're preaching. Clean up your own trashed house before you judge someone else's.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:48 pm to
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It is THIS type of selective activism that drives some Catholics away from the church


Curious why there isn't a true rebellion within the church.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22589 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:48 pm to
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Any denomination that would give Biden and Pelosi communion is contemptible.

NOTIFICATION

To the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States Congress Nancy Pelosi

The Second Vatican Council, in its Decree on the Church in the Modem World, Gaudium et spes, reiterated the Church's ancient and consistent teaching that “from the first moment of conception life must be guarded with the greatest care while abortion and infanticide are unspeakable crimes” (n. 51). Christians have, indeed, always upheld the dignity of human life in every stage, especially the most vulnerable, beginning with life in the womb. His Holiness, Pope Francis, in keeping with his predecessors, has likewise been quite clear and emphatic in teaching on the dignity of human life in the womb.

This fundamental moral truth has consequences for Catholics in how they live their lives, especially those entrusted with promoting and protecting the public good of society. Pope St. John Paul II was also quite consistent in upholding this constant teaching of the Church, and frequently reminded us that “those who are directly involved in lawmaking bodies have a ‘grave and clear obligation to oppose’ any law that attacks human life. For them, as for every Catholic, it is impossible to promote such laws or to vote for them” (cf. Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding the participation of Catholics in political life [November 24, 2002], n. 4, §1). A Catholic legislator who supports procured abortion, after knowing the teaching of the Church, commits a manifestly grave sin which is a cause of most serious scandal to others. Therefore, universal Church law provides that such persons “are not to be admitted to Holy Communion” (Code of Canon Law, can. 915).

With regard to the application of these principles to Catholics in political life, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, wrote to the U.S. bishops in 2004 explaining the approach to be taken:

“... when a person's formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church's teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist. When ‘these precautionary measures have not had their effect ... ,’ and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, ‘the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it.’”

In striving to follow this direction, I am grateful to you for the time you have given me in the past to speak about these matters. Unfortunately, I have not received such an accommodation to my many requests to speak with you again since you vowed to codify the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision in federal law following upon passage of Texas Senate Bill 8 last September. That is why I communicated my concerns to you via letter on April 7, 2022, and informed you there that, should you not publicly repudiate your advocacy for abortion “rights” or else refrain from referring to your Catholic faith in public and receiving Holy Communion, I would have no choice but to make a declaration, in keeping with canon 915, that you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.

As you have not publically repudiated your position on abortion, and continue to refer to your Catholic faith in justifying your position and to receive Holy Communion, that time has now come. Therefore, in light of my responsibility as the Archbishop of San Francisco to be “concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to [my] care” (Code of Canon Law, can. 383, §1), by means of this communication I am hereby notifying you that you are not to present yourself for Holy Communion and, should you do so, you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion, until such time as you publicly repudiate your advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance

Please know that I stand ready to continue our conversation at any time, and will continue to offer up prayer and fasting for you.

I also ask all of the faithful of the Archdiocese of San Francisco to pray for all of our legislators, especially Catholic legislators who promote procured abortion, that with the help and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, they may undergo a conversion of heart in this most grave matter and human life may be protected and fostered in every stage and condition of life.

Given at San Francisco, on the nineteenth day of May, in the Year of our Lord 2022.

[Signed]

Salvatore J. Cordileone

Archbishop of San Francisco
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16422 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:49 pm to
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Catholic California


Glad you made the distinction between California and the rest of the world.

Catholic California is the same as conservative Liz Chaney.

You will know them by their fruit.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14013 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:50 pm to
OK, great, a letter was sent! 4 years ago. Words fell on deaf ears!

How do we kick it up a notch and make them really listen? What are the consequences of not following doctrine?

Actions have always spoken louder than words.

If she's still going to confession and is allowed to receive communion, it's all moot.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22589 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:51 pm to
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OK, great, a letter was sent! 4 years ago. Words fell on deaf ears!

I just wanted to start any exchange we have by making it clear you don't know what the frick you're talking about.

What actions do you think the Catholic church should be taking w/r/t Pelosi and communion?
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 12:52 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14451 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:52 pm to
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We sure do hate Catholics here on tigerdroppings.



Give it a rest. You say that every single time some says something even remotely negative about the catholic church.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2167 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:54 pm to
It would be a lot easier to just say you hate Catholics. I don’t have the time to go back and forth with you posting the countless examples of evangelical churches hosting tranny story hour and celebrating homosexuality.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14013 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:54 pm to
Oh, you're one of the holier than thou ones.

What are the consequences for maintaining a position that's against doctrine? Withholding communion, excommunication, what?!?! Apparently you know it all.

As I said, clean out the trash from your own house before you criticize someone else's house.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22589 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 12:56 pm to
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Oh, you're one of the holier than thou ones.

Not at all. I grew up Catholic but haven't been practicing for a couple of decades. I have serious issues with today's Catholic church and its pope. But that doesn't make me go full retard.

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What are the consequences for maintaining a position that's against doctrine? Withholding communion, excommunication, what?!?! Apparently you know it all.

Again, in practical terms - what should the Church be doing in your opinion?

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As I said, clean out the trash from your own house before you criticize someone else's house.

Whose house did I criticize?
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