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People that blackpill & Critical America Theory

Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:23 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:23 pm

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What you see almost endlessly from Tucker Carlson, "Comic" Dave Smith, Theo Von, etc., and the rest of the blackpillers amounts to a Critical America Theory. I'm not making this up. I'm explaining.

Critical Theory was developed by neo-Marxist Max Horkheimer of the Frankfurt School in 1937. In an interview in 1969, Horkheimer explained what the Critical Theory is. He said (closely paraphrasing):

"I developed the Critical Theory because we [Western neo-Marxists] realized we cannot articulate the good or ideal society on the terms of the existing society. What we can do is criticize those aspects of the existing society that we wish to change."

In other words, a Critical Theory believes everything is so captured and corrupted by power and those who benefit from systems of power that it isn't even possible to talk about a better situation in clear terms. All that's available is criticism of why the system/society isn't better than it is. This activity has come to be known as identifying or "making visible" the various "problematics" in the existing system.

A Critical Theory OF SOMETHING would focus this general mode of engagement into a particular domain.

For example, a Critical Theory of Race in America would believe that racism is so endemic to a society and embedded within its systems to the benefit of whites that we cannot articulate a true "antiracist" vision on the terms available to us. All we could do is identify where "racism" manifests and criticize it for being there.

We call that program "Critical Race Theory" because it is a Critical Theory of Race. What it does in practice is
(1) identifies "hidden racism" in everything (criticizing those elements of the existing (racial) system they wish to change), called "identifying problematics";
(2) induces more people to think this way;
nothing else.

What a Critical America Theory would look like is not being able to articulate what a good or ideal America would look like on the terms of the existing America but criticizing those elements of America as it exists that we wish to change.

That is, it would look for everything America isn't doing perfectly according to some ideal standard that doesn't exist, probably cannot exist, and cannot even be articulated and "make those problematics visible" in the hopes of changing the system.

Leftists, including the whole of Critical Race Theory, do this endlessly. From Derrick Bell's (founder of CRT) 1970 book, Race, Racism, and American Law, forward, it is a relentless racial Critical America Theory. That's why it exported poorly and often hilariously to other countries that don't have the same law or racial history.

Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States (1980) is another example, a very naked example, of a work of Critical America Theory. Specifically, this book goes through every chapter of American history, from pre-founding (Christopher Columbus) to the present (1980 at the time) and catalogues how America cheated "the people," mainly workers, indigenous, racial minorities, and women (the intersectional coalition).

What I'm telling you is that the blackpillers of Podcastistan and X, etc., very notably including Tucker Carlson, are doing a socially conservative variation on Critical America Theory. Whether Carlson or "Auron MacIntyre" (nhrn) from The Blaze, the undertone of every message is plainly "you don't hate your (real) country enough" as compared against an imaginary ideal that doesn't, can't, and won't ever exist.

The Blackpill Comics all do the same thing, relentlessly identifying "problematics" and alleged hidden systems of control that delegitimize the country as it actually is against a standard that isn't even real.

The thing is, Critical America Theory is a Critical Theory of America. That is, it is a Critical Theory. That is, when you participate in this slop, you are taking on a critical consciousness about America. Having a critical consciousness is being WOKE, by definition (of Woke). This slop is Woke.

When this Critical America Theory slop takes on a socially Leftist slant, we call it Woke Left (or just Woke).

When this Critical America Theory slop takes on a socially conservative or Rightist slant, we call it Woke Right (which is just Woke too).

They are both Woke. They are both toxic. They are both false enlightenment into a kind of terrible darkness, entitlement, malice, despair, hatred, and failure.

Reject Critical America Theory. Love your country. It's great, and it's worth it.

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@petersavodnik says something very similar around minute 48 of @JeremyDBoreing podcast:

“the whole idea behind the sort of power sharing that people like Tucker Carlson have talked about is born of this sort of postmodernization of the American idea... It's just this relativization, this postmodernization in which there is no truth, there is no objective reality, there is no such thing as better or worse in terms of a moral hierarchy.”
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:33 pm to
Switching the boogeyman from the Left to Israel is their strategy. It will kill the republican party, just look at Charlie Kirk’s murder. Instead of focusing on far left trans militant, half of the right is blaming Zionism or whatever they spew
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:34 pm to
It’s not that fricking complicated dude. Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran. Then Bibi Netanyahu called him and two days later he went to war with Iran. People are pissed.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:35 pm to
Lol
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:38 pm to
Relativism (second quoted section) has absolutely nothing to do with anything you posted in the first quoted section.

Criticizing something without providing a solution isn’t inherently bad. Definitely not inherently Marxist.

Doesn’t need to be some scary thing you label, it’s just called critical thinking. It’s normal for a problem to be identified before a solution is worked out.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:43 pm to
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T1gerNate


Here's one of the wokesters now.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
10432 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

DeathByTossDive225


And another.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:58 pm to
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It’s not that fricking complicated dude. Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran.

And won 3 elections
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10230 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:01 pm to
This is why we call them the Woke Right. They are cut from the same cloth as the Woke Left. They are not MAGA.
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

In other words, a Critical Theory believes everything is so captured and corrupted by power and those who benefit from systems of power that it isn't even possible to talk about a better situation in clear terms. All that's available is criticism of why the system/society isn't better than it is. This activity has come to be known as identifying or "making visible" the various "problematics" in the existing system.


I don't follow Tucker, Smith, and Von very closely, so I can't speak for them. But in general, this is a mischaracterization of pretty much any right of center view point.

I don't hear a lot of people on the right offering hollow, vapid criticism with no articulation of what might work better. We have a very clear idea of what works better than the EU-style socialism we were drifting toward.

The people I pay attention to talk about enumerated powers and transferring federal overreach outside of those 3 powers back to the states. You need to go deeper into the weeds for each area discussed, but in doing so one articulates a vision of how things would be better.

Maybe this guy is right about Tucker et al, but in general he's wrong.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10230 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:03 pm to
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Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran.


Patently false. Trump has called for revenge against the Iranian regime since 1980. He called the Iran Deal “horrible” in 2015. He said during the 2024 campaign that Iran would never be allowed to have nukes.
Posted by gon33
Member since Sep 2025
131 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:11 pm to
To say people offer no solutions is just plain out bullshite. The solution is to reduce the size of government, reduce government spending, stop getting involved as the worlds police with hundreds of bases around the world. Stop illegal immigration, get a secure border, get secure elections and bring back meritocracy.

You know, all the shite Trump and MAGA was about before Trump got elected.

Now they do a 180 and pretend like nobody else has a solution and you compare that to being woke?

Furthermore, the concept of liberty and what it means to be free and a republic was designed in the 1780s and it's the law of the land. It's not critical theory, it's either constitutional or not. And 90% of the government we have today is NOT constitutional.

People like you would have called the founding fathers these sorts of things because they didn't tote the official line.

The policies you support are straight out of the lefts playbook right down to accusing people of the things you are guilty of.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:19 pm to
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And another.

Did you have an issue with what I commented here or are you just triggered by my presence now ?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:09 am to
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Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran. Then Bibi Netanyahu called him and two days later he went to war with Iran. People are pissed.


Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84387 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:55 am to
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Criticizing something without providing a solution isn’t inherently bad. Definitely not inherently Marxist.

All your Marxist comrades do is criticize relentlessly and offer no solutions beyond “frick whitey”.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84387 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:04 am to
Yeah I don’t know that Trump ever specifically pledged to never fight Iran.

I just don’t understand this manic rush to turn on him for this war. It’s such a point of pride to say “frick Trump he’s lost my support bc of this war” when we don’t yet know anything. But we do know Iran has been funding attacks against us for decades. They chant “death to America” and they mean it. We do know they fund terrorism around the world. We do know they want nukes. We do know they’ve partnered with China. So what if this was overdue? What if it was now or never? Notice that its ally China has not come to its aid…is that bc China is not ready to tangle with us militarily? Is that a sign to other regimes that China is not a trustworthy ally? What would it have accomplished to wait—Iran wasn’t getting weaker and it wasn’t ever going to stop funding terrorism.

Maybe we trust the guy we voted for, for now at least. This could turn out badly or it could pay dividends for decades to come.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 1:08 am
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104393 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:52 am to
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I just don’t understand this manic rush to turn on him for this war. It’s such a point of pride to say “frick Trump he’s lost my support bc of this war


Yah because we've fricking done this before. It's a mistake. And youre allowed to make mistakes, but not multi-trillion dollar ones.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 3:06 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11197 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:05 am to
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Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran.


Then why did he say that Iran couldn't have a nuke in his candidate announcement speech in 2015?

That's not a guy saying, "I won't attack Iran." You people only hear what you want to hear.
Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
895 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:37 am to
quote:

It’s not that fricking complicated dude. Trump ran for twelve years on NOT starting a war with Iran. Then Bibi Netanyahu called him and two days later he went to war with Iran. People are pissed.


So you’re saying the Prime Minister Of Israel is the real Morris Bart? 1 call, that’s all?? Fricking tard.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63334 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:58 am to
James Lindsay.
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