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If Iran is so dangerous, was Trump wrong to criticize Obama in 2011?
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:20 pm
Iran is clearly a massive problem in the middle east, as this board has pointed out. Can anyone link their posts from 2011-2013 calling out Trump for being wrong? Iran was incredibly dangerous and developing nukes. Shame on Trump for discouraging Obama from taking out the regime when he had the chance!
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:22 pm to Ingeniero
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Obama from taking out the regime when he had the chance!
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:26 pm to Ingeniero
Obama gave them money and relaxed sanctions that helped them continue their goal. Trump has always maintained Iran cannot reach that goal. Should I regret my vote because of a tweet from 2011?
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:30 pm to DeBoar
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:32 pm to Ingeniero
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discouraging Obama from taking out the regime when he had the chance!
Was Obama trying to kill them by smothering them with hundreds of pounds of $100 bills??
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:32 pm to DeBoar
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Trump has always maintained Iran cannot reach that goal.
Which is why it's so odd he'd be against striking Iran for 2 or 3 years.
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Should I regret my vote because of a tweet from 2011?
My OP didn't say that. Would you like to answer the question that was posed?
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:32 pm to Huge Richard
I don’t get the posters on this board who are so intent to get others to criticize Trump or disavow him, he still will remain president until his term is over.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:33 pm to Ingeniero
It’s not a completely good quote other than he was correct that Obama did not know how to negotiate.
The Iran deal was one of the worst ill conceived agreements I have ever seen.
The Iran deal was one of the worst ill conceived agreements I have ever seen.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:33 pm to Ingeniero
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My OP didn't say that. Would you like to answer the question that was posed?
I did answer you, just didn’t give you the response you wanted.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:34 pm to DeBoar
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Obama gave them money and relaxed sanctions that helped them continue their goal.
That was a sign of weakness on his part. They know when Trump says he is going to do something, they believe him.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:35 pm to DeBoar
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he still will remain president until his term is over
Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:02 pm to beaux duke
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beaux duke
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:08 pm to Ingeniero
quote:Does TDS have a dyslexic onset correlation?
Shame on Trump for discouraging Obama from taking out the regime when he had the chance!
I ask, because clearly negotiation 15-16yrs ago was a possibility re: Nukes, whereas the timetable faced in 2026 was obviously at least 15yrs different.
"President Obama ... because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled!" Is that statement even debatable?
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:16 pm to Ingeniero
Well he was right about Obama negotiating skills as he handed Iran plane loads of money
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:18 pm to Ingeniero
Trump wasn't President in 2011 and he didn't have all of the intel on Iran. And as liberals loved to claim the Clintons evolved on their gays in the military and gay marriage stance. Trump got new information and his beliefs evolved.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:24 pm to TigerMyth36
Or maybe he isn't the great negotiator that he says he is. His actions during his second term might actually be more about his self acknowledgement of this fact than people want to admit. But there is a clear pattern of him not being able to diplomatically negotiate things so he uses the tools available to him to force outcomes instead of risking failed negotiations. This is neither bad not good. It's just an observation.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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"President Obama ... because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled!" Is that statement even debatable?
Quite. Most people would prefer where we were at with Iran in 2017 vs now.
Also the seized assets we released as part of lifting sanctions (which Trump also did during this war), are nothing in comparison to what we’ve spent here.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:49 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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lifting sanctions (which Trump also did during this war),
Link, please. So we can explore that dreaded concept, context. I’m sure it would be nice to have no one question that and simply leave it vague, which best serves you in this particular case, but unfortunately I know better. So get us to the specifics of your reference and we’ll give it a good once over.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:02 pm to Ingeniero
Here we will see that portion of the board who cannot understand that conditions may change over the course of 13 years.
Maybe all that money Obama sent them finally paid off, no point in bombing them unless they put that money into targets first.
Maybe all that money Obama sent them finally paid off, no point in bombing them unless they put that money into targets first.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:39 pm to DeathByTossDive225
quote:As would I.
Most people would prefer where we were at with Iran in 2017 vs now.
The problem is you're equating Iran's nuclear capability and confidence vs the infidel a decade ago vs what it was last spring. Had the latter been at circa 2017 levels, these hits would not have happened.
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