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WBC is an unserious exhibition in its current state.

Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:14 pm
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:14 pm
It could be so much better.

1. MLB needs to remove its influence (I know they created the thing, but they’re harming the product with restrictions)

2. Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.

3. It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.

Just frustrating thinking about the roster we could’ve had if American players cared more and MLB had no say.

I mean not being allowed to bring in the best closer in the world in a tie game, top of the 9th, winner take all. Lunacy.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 11:20 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:16 pm to
It’s awesome. The energy and competitiveness was great. Always opportunities to improve but don’t act like this is broken.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:37 pm to
Imagine this scenario.

Game 7 of the World Series, tie game, top of the 9th, Padres have the best closer in the world rested and available.

Dugout: “alright get Miller ready”

Bullpen: “we can’t”

Dugout: “what do you mean ‘you can’t’?”

Bullpen: “MLB said no”

Dugout: “what? Why?”

Bullpen: “just cause, they don’t want him to”

Dugout:
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:46 pm to
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It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.

Not a single pitcher is going to pitch in the WBC after a 162 game season and postseason. Most players wouldn’t want to either. That’s just not realistic

When it’s played is really the only time you’d be able to maximize the talent competing
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Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.

I’m not quite sure how you fix this.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:52 pm to
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3. It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.


Nobody would compete. Players that just got done in the postseason would be spent.

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Just frustrating thinking about the roster we could’ve had if American players cared more and MLB had no say. I mean not being allowed to bring in the best closer in the world in a tie game, top of the 9th, winner take all. Lunacy.


MLB adopted these rules, or the team? MLB didn’t tell Skubal he couldn’t pitch. MLB didn’t determine reliever availability. Pitch counts apply to all players.

Fact is, not every international competition has everyone all in. Hockey seems to be great about it, but our Olympic basketball team shite the bed because certain athletes didn’t want to participate for various reasons.

As long as a major league team has invested millions in a player, they will call the shots.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:54 pm to
We sent about as good of a lineup as the US could and they couldn’t score for shite, even struggled against Brazil and Great Britain. The entire US baseball system is setup on analytics now, even with travel ball kids, and those analytics don’t win short tournaments like this.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 12:00 am
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:19 am to
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Not a single pitcher is going to pitch in the WBC after a 162 game season and postseason. Most players wouldn’t want to either. That’s just not realistic
Early February tho? All of these players grew up playing baseball year round in some form or fashion.

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Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.
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I’m not quite sure how you fix this.
Time. Kids in the U.S. grew up wanting to play in the World Series, not as much so in other countries. Growing up watching how awesome the WBC is, they will hopefully be more inclined to play in it.
Posted by Translator
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:06 am to
I kind of wanted an atmosphere like the World Cup but the event fell short of that level of excitement. I would take a 4 team tournament (US, Venezuela, DR and Japan) to replace the all-star game. Either that, or an 8 team tourney in spring training and the final 4 at the all star break.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5557 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:48 am to
All this shite’s easy to say for fans who sit on their asses and watch on TV without any skin in the game. Paul Skenes blows out his arm and it’s just “Oh well” and change the channel for you.

A lot of people are really tough and really dedicated with the time, money, and bodies of other people.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:07 am to
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2. Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.
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3. It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.
The more serious we are the less meaningful of a competition it becomes. And a longer competition will become very boring watching our superior depth dominate shite in 3-game series with less opportunity for upsets. Best on best would see the US and Japan in most every final as they are by far the deepest squads. I have no interest in watching a sweatier longer tournament outside of the championship. There may be some allure in that game / series but the tournament as a whole would be as underwhelming as watching 95% of Olympic basketball

You don’t actually want the serious tournament you think you do. The restrictions and opt-outs at least make it more of an even playing field and not a borefest
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1. MLB needs to remove its influence (I know they created the thing, but they’re harming the product with restrictions)
I believe you’re confused as to what the product is. The product isn’t the WBC. That’s the sales channel. The product is MLB / baseball as a whole to international markets

We’re the least relevant market. Worst case we stop following the event…in which case so what, it’s already not well watched or attended here. The goal of the tournament isn’t to have a best on best competition. It’s to leverage a few games watched by an international fan every 3 years into years or a lifetime of MLB fandom. When there’s more parity and that stops being the goal, then there’s room to contemplate a more serious tournament. But that’s not for a while
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 4:19 am
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5396 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:54 am to
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Just frustrating thinking about the roster we could’ve had if American players cared more and MLB had no say.


We had plenty of our best players. They just played like bums.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:54 am to
That was awesome baseball

All these excuses for Team USA. We still should have won, but our hitting was arse the entire tournament
Posted by sgallo3
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 6:02 am to
I bet those Venezuelan guys never even played travel ball so unserious
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 6:17 am
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13241 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 6:43 am to
I think it should be a week or 10 days and replace the all star break. I feel that every league except the NFL should move this way given the ratings hockey has pulled for the 4 nations and the Olympics, and now baseball with the WBC.

I think it’d be smart to try to get a big game on the 4th of July. Team USA playing America’s pass time on Independence Day. Seems like the easiest sell ever.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 6:45 am
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13241 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 6:48 am to
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Not a single pitcher is going to pitch in the WBC after a 162 game season and postseason. Most players wouldn’t want to either. That’s just not realistic


I agree with you, but also hockey players do with this for the iihf world championships every year. Those start while the Stanley Cup playoffs are still going, and some guys will get knocked out of the playoffs and immediately fly over to Europe to join their national team.

Just more evidence that hockey is the purest sport left standing.
Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:07 am to
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I agree with you, but also hockey players do with this for the iihf world championships every year. Those start while the Stanley Cup playoffs are still going, and some guys will get knocked out of the playoffs and immediately fly over to Europe to join their national team. Just more evidence that hockey is the purest sport left standing.


The issue is specifically pitching, there’s no way around that it’s bad for the arm, specifically the more you throw. It’s just not worth the extra wear n tear for these guys.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110295 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:07 am to
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but our Olympic basketball team shite the bed because certain athletes didn’t want to participate for various reasons.
When? We have won the last 5 golds

Hate LeBron all you want but ever since he has been top dog be put it on himself to make the Olympics serious. Hopefully now that he is done others will care as much
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 7:12 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Member since Jul 2008
18434 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:18 am to
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2. Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.


As long as there are teams investing millions of dollars in these players there will never be 100% investment in competing in the WBC. And as someone who has a passionate rooting interest in one particular team - I gotta say I agree.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12780 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:34 am to
Star Player interest/participation has been growing every time. I can’t imagine any veteran player preferring to grind out another spring training instead of this awesome atmosphere. The pitching is always going to be dicey because of the money involved with mlb. But the pitching was really good for the US this time, despite the limitations. The big bats never taking off was the US downfall.

Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1793 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:40 am to
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It’s awesome. The energy and competitiveness was great.

Agree 1000000%!
Saw someone mention that “if baseball were always like this it would be the most popular sport in America”…..
I invite you (them) to college baseball. WBC is the best in the world playing college baseball for a few weeks

It’s not perfect but it’s damn close- as close as think you could reasonable make it without putting it mid season or something like that so everyone is ramped up
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