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Think the AFD in Germany are our friends? Guess again.

Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:49 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:49 am
Fillip Piatov, deputy head of the politics department at Bild, a German newspaper, penned this column in the WSJ last week

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The far-right Alternative for Germany party has long styled itself the Trump administration’s closest partner in Germany, and members of the administration, especially Vice President JD Vance, have spoken supportively of the AfD. But at the first real stress test, the party abandoned President Trump. It condemned the U.S. military strikes against the Iranian regime.

“Donald Trump started as a president of peace,” Tino Chrupalla, an AfD co-chairman, said. “In the end, Donald Trump will end as a president of war.” Those are strong words from a man who declined to criticize Russian dictator Vladimir Putin for his war against Ukraine and threats against Germany. “He hasn’t done anything to me,” Mr. Chrupalla said of Mr. Putin in November.....

In an official statement, the party leadership declared it was watching the U.S. and Israeli strikes “with great concern” and added: “The renewed destabilization of the Middle East is not in the German interest and must be brought to an end.”

The AfD leadership failed to mention that the regime in Tehran has destabilized the region for decades by directing terrorist organizations in Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq, supporting Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad during the civil war, and contributing to a massive wave of refugees into Europe. The party’s first official statement didn’t contain a single critical word about the Islamist regime itself, which has secretly pursued a nuclear-weapons program and has carried out terrorist attacks on German soil.

Meanwhile, the center-right Christian Democratic Chancellor Friedrich Merz, frequently smeared by the AfD as anti-Trump, stood firmly behind the U.S. He made clear that he regards the Islamic Republic as a “terrorist regime” and that he shares the objectives of Germany’s allies.

Mr. Merz delivered the most remarkable foreign-policy sentence ever spoken by a postwar German leader: “Legal classifications under international law will achieve relatively little—especially when they largely remain without consequences.” The comment is a jolt of realism for German elites, who, more than 80 years after World War II, generally treat international law as sacrosanct.

For his support of the American president, the AfD accused Mr. Merz of “pathetic submission” and derided him as a “U.S. vassal.”

This episode demonstrates that the Trump administration misjudged the AfD in treating it as its principal ally in Germany and as similar to other European populist movements of the right. There are parallels between the MAGA movement and the AfD, particularly in their calls for restrictions on immigration and the disdain with which the political and media establishment treats them. But what MAGA appears to have misunderstood most about the AfD is the core of every German far-right movement: its intractable anti-Americanism.

German nationalists have never fully forgiven America for World War II. Nor for the cultural competition, from hamburgers’ supplanting bratwurst to the omnipresence of American films and music. The most radical far-right activists claim that Germany remains occupied by the U.S. and therefore isn’t a sovereign state. While German nationalists often seek alliances with European partners, American patriots are for them fundamentally incompatible allies. The very concept of the U.S.—a nation that opens itself to people from around the world—is irreconcilable with far-right German blood-and-soil ideology.

For that reason, parts of the AfD viewed with deep skepticism the alliance pursued by party co-chairman Alice Weidel and some of her followers. They understood the deeply rooted hostility toward America within much of the party’s electorate, which tends to be sympathetic to Russia and China....


Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:50 am to
The EU would love to see the oil and gas industry collapse
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:55 am to
Yes, I misjudged the AFD as well. People like Trump and Musk stood up for them and they turned out to be backstabbers. Well frick them.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
1001 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:57 am to
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German nationalists have never fully forgiven America for World War II. Nor for the cultural competition, from hamburgers’ supplanting bratwurst to the omnipresence of American films and music. The most radical far-right activists claim that Germany remains occupied by the U.S. and therefore isn’t a sovereign state. While German nationalists often seek alliances with European partners, American patriots are for them fundamentally incompatible allies. The very concept of the U.S.—a nation that opens itself to people from around the world—is irreconcilable with far-right German blood-and-soil ideology.


Sounds a lot like Tucker Qatarson and his gay minions on this board. The woke mind virus that infected the tranny-left is the other side of the same coin for the woke-right…which could easily be called the woke-reich
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:05 pm to
They will never amount to anything but a polling blip. They won’t be able to get any positions in a government. They are dead end.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
95992 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:19 pm to
As they say, never trust a Kraut
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1908 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:28 pm to
Germany, England, France, Italy, and Spain are all lost causes. It’s too late for them. They destroyed themselves during the World Wars and Civil War in Spain. The generations of young men who likely could have saved them were lying in cemeteries. The men that were left to rebuild society were often times inferior to the ones who were killed. Mass migration was their solution and it has failed
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39571 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:29 pm to
Merz for sure has somewhat found Jesus on a lot of topics.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15185 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:32 pm to
The UK and ROI; their Muslim ball licking has ended them. You would like a destroyer to protect our base in Cyprus? Best I can do is... 2-3 weeks.

I'm going to see how bad the ROI is this summer.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69010 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:44 pm to
Mostly all Euros are still gigantic pussies at heart.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2218 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:56 pm to
Bush's Iraq war and Obama's policy of regime change in Syria flooded Germany with muslim migrants and opposition to that is the main reason the AfD exists
What do you think their response would be to another U.S. move that threatens Europe with more refugees?
Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
608 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 12:58 pm to
Possibly riddled with fake news and propaganda just like our news here at home.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3839 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Think the AFD in Germany are our friends? Guess again.


As explained to me by friends from Germany and friends who've lived there...

The AFD are actually the leftover East Germans... the angry people who are Putin loyalists and are nostalgic for the days of Soviet rule (and its full-employment for doing almost nothing) who aren't competing well in Germany's very advanced labor market or in education. They are anti-Western, not the "defenders of Western values" that we get them pitched as... they're really anti-Capitalist when it comes down to it, they are extremely anti-immigrant because Germans would rather hire immigrants over them, and they live in the parts of Germany with little investment and where anybody with any motivation left when the wall came down.

So, of course, they side with the Khamenei regime, that's who Putin is siding with...

Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
53596 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:14 pm to
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The EU would love to see the oil and gas industry collapse


Except the part where they freeze to death in the winter
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75939 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:16 pm to
Well written first sentence.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57871 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:43 pm to
good analysis
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6118 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:46 pm to
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“Donald Trump started as a president of peace,” Tino Chrupalla, an AfD co-chairman, said. “In the end, Donald Trump will end as a president of war.” Those are strong words from a man who declined to criticize Russian dictator Vladimir Putin for his war against Ukraine and threats against Germany. “He hasn’t done anything to me,” Mr. Chrupalla said of Mr. Putin in November.....


So a war in a country only a few hundred miles from them is "not doing anything to them", but taking out the head of the islamic snake (when they have complained about the muslim invaders) is adversely impacting them?

What a bunch of clowns. Europe is truly lost
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8315 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:52 pm to
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“In the end, Donald Trump will end as a president of war.”



This is 100% factual though. No getting past that
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
6705 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Germany, England, France, Italy, and Spain are all lost causes. It’s too late for them.


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Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
4152 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:26 pm to
The war in Iran is a pretty complex issue with Germany having very different goals than the U.S.

I probably would withhold judgment now—this is probably not a good litmus test.
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