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The conflicting signals of economic news makes your head spin.

Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4438 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:19 am
Earlier this week is was announced that December holiday sales were flat despite reports during the holidays of robust spending and high foot/web traffic.

Now the employment data was expected to be extremely low and we get a number double expectations. And unemployment ticks down.

But they also said there were actually 900K fewer jobs in 2025 than previously reported.

Every time you turn around there is conflicting news on the state of the consumer and the economy.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
35190 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:23 am to
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makes your head spin


This is on purpose, you're supposed to let the talking heads tell you what to think.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44154 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:28 am to
After 2020, I’m amazed that anyone believes any number generated by any gov’t agency.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16308 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:30 am to
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After 2020, I’m amazed that anyone believes any number generated by any gov’t agency.


I'm here too.

I don't care who's in charge, I don't trust them.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28273 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:31 am to
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After 2020, I’m amazed that anyone believes any number generated by any gov’t agency.


And any politician as well, for that matter.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13745 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:37 am to
I usually base my assessment of the economy on personal experience. Seems like things are kind of ticking along about like they normally do. shite goes up, shite goes down. People lose jobs. People get jobs. Businesses close, businesses open. I will say that out of necessity I keep up with skilled building tradesmen availability and that can be an early indicator of impending economic downturns....construction is one of the first to get hit and recover....and those numbers are pretty similar to what they have been over the last 20 years or so. If you have a job and your salary makes your nut you are probably of the opinion the economy is fine. If not you are probably of the opposite opinion. If you ain't trying to time markets and make a fortune gambling somewhere in the middle is where the truth lies, most likely. If one place is saying the sky is falling and another says the sky is expanding and secure the truth is probably that the sky is just the sky.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40612 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:17 am to
All the numbers are cooked.

They were cooked under Biden, they are cooked under Trump. And they were cooked long before both of them.
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
1049 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:36 am to
Any numbers the gov gives you, it probably worse. Our economy is made of paper pushers.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
7047 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:49 am to
Pretty well said. It seems like a lot of the bragging and complaining come from politically leaning people. Based on whoever the president is, their political bias drives your opinion of the market.

Personally, I don't credit the government with my job and I don't blame the government when life hits me. If you want to act like the government is to blame, you lack accountability and are looking for an excuse. I've not had the government affect my career path and I started working under the HW first administration.

The most successful people I know spend 0 time coming up with excuses. They find a way.

I just wish the government would take less of my money. I work a little more than a day out of the week for the government.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3535 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:38 am to
Figures don't lie but Liars do figure...

Posted by American Mariner
Great Lakes
Member since May 2022
68 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6323 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:00 am to
I'm confident that unemployment number doesn't include kids like mine who graduated with bachelor's but haven't found a job.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11045 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:01 am to
You will know what they want you to know.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6406 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:02 am to
The easiest way to evaluate is if you’re better off than before. Yes you could have gotten a raise etc but when you go out to dinner with your family and pay the check, do you feel it?


Stocks going up being an indicator is dumb. Most people don’t even own stocks and if they do, don’t cash them out.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26061 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:05 am to
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I'm confident that unemployment number doesn't include kids like mine who graduated with bachelor's but haven't found a job.


How long have they gone without working?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
41244 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:10 am to
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Stocks going up being an indicator is dumb. Most people don’t even own stocks and if they do, don’t cash them out.


87% of households with 100k+ income own stocks. Not going to say it's dumb not to invest in stocks because there are plenty of people bad at it, but you just do a really bad job at pretending to be wealthy online.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6406 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:11 am to
This is such a dumb stat. 100% of people making 100mil a year are millionaires.


Median income is under 100k so most people don’t own stocks.

It’s baffling how dumb some of you are. Like copy and paste with no thought behind it
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 11:12 am
Posted by Shreve Perry
Member since Jan 2026
331 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:11 am to
All by design, exactly the same as the political 2 party divide DC relies on to infect our population with heated/hated debate. With more access to "data and information ", which as you say is a legit manipulation and truth shitshow, the people have every opportunity to "nuh-uh, you're so wrong, Man. Here's a tweet" each other to death. And the politicians at state and national level sit back, take a deep breath and fist bump that they're able to pull off the magic trick for another election season.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
41244 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:12 am to
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This is such a dumb stat. 100% of people making 100mil a year are millionaires.


That's a terrible comparison dork
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26061 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:14 am to
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so most people don’t own stocks.


62 percent of Adults own stock.
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