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Aluminum prices diverging between America and rest of first world

Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:41 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted by Tangineck
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:44 am to
A new smelting plant is opening here for the first time in decades. We need more manufacturing here on our shores.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:46 am to
This reeks of some private equity tom-foolery.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:46 am to
The amount of retards on this site who cant even fully think through first order effects, much less second or third order, is staggering.


Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:49 am to
Is your TDS returning.
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:50 am to
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The amount of retards on this site who cant even fully think through first order effects, much less second or third order, is staggering.


Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:50 am to
Really sucks for all the businesses that depend on aluminum imports.

Makes them unable to compete with international markets.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 10:51 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:50 am to
quote:

This reeks of some private equity tom-foolery.

This probably has to do with the tariff wars
Posted by WavinWilly
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:52 am to
quote:

A new smelting plant is opening here for the first time in decades. We need more manufacturing here on our shores.


Just looked into this - supposed to be finished before the end of the decade and more than double the current US production. That seems like things are working as intended.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:52 am to
quote:

This probably has to do with the tariff wars


Digging deeper, you're likely right...
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Just looked into this - supposed to be finished before the end of the decade and more than double the current US production. That seems like things are working as intended.

Our production from 2025 was around 680k tons. 2023 was about the same. 2024 was 620k tons

In 2024 we imported 6.75 million tons.

Even if this smelter doubles our capacity we will need to import 6+ million tons.

We have way more jobs that depend on aluminum prices being low than we are gonna create jobs in mining/smelting aluminum
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 11:01 am
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:15 am to
America could learn from Iceland. Iceland is a major Aluminum smelter because they get a huge amount of power from their geothermal resources. (It helps that they are a volcanic country.

The US has similar resources that are not utilized. Both in Alaska and California there are volcanic terranes.

Smelt AL with no pollution? Learn from the engineers in Iceland ( who were mostly educated in Germany according to those we met.).
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:20 am to
quote:

America could learn from Iceland. Iceland is a major Aluminum smelter because they get a huge amount of power from their geothermal resources. (It helps that they are a volcanic country.

The US has similar resources that are not utilized. Both in Alaska and California there are volcanic terranes.


Does sound interesting for smelting but we just dont have a lot of naturally available bauxite.
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:31 am to
quote:

This reeks of some private equity tom-foolery.

They're not who gave us the tariffs.
Posted by Tigertittie
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:35 am to
Why don't you explain it to us, champ.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:35 am to
I figured it out...
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:37 am to
Aluminum is a commodity, here's what ChatGPT says about why it would be more expensive here

quote:

1. Regional premiums (the big one)
Global aluminum prices are quoted on the London Metal Exchange (LME), but physical buyers pay:
LME price + regional premium
In the U.S., that premium (often called the Midwest Premium) reflects:
Transportation costs (moving heavy metal isn’t cheap)
Storage and financing costs
Local supply/demand imbalances
That premium alone can add hundreds of dollars per metric ton versus other regions.

2. Tariffs and trade barriers
The U.S. has used Section 232 tariffs on aluminum imports at various times. Even when exemptions exist:
They restrict supply
Increase compliance costs
Give domestic producers pricing power
Less competition = higher local prices.

3. Energy costs & domestic production limits
Aluminum smelting is extremely electricity-intensive.
U.S. power costs are generally higher than in places like Canada (hydro) or the Middle East (subsidized energy).
Many U.S. smelters shut down over the past few decades.
So the U.S. relies more on imports — but with tariffs and logistics layered on top.

4. Logistics & geography
The U.S. market is far from the world’s lowest-cost producers.
Shipping aluminum from the Middle East, China, or Russia isn’t trivial.
Ports, rail, trucking, and insurance all add cost.
Europe and Asia often sit closer to large smelting hubs.

5. Contract structure & inventory dynamics
A lot of U.S. aluminum is sold via:
Long-term contracts
Warehouse networks tied to financing deals
Those structures can keep prices “sticky” and higher than spot markets elsewhere.
Posted by fareplay
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:50 am to
There’s too much random bs going around here and by the time govt finds out it’s too late
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:46 pm to
If you really want to put tariffs on things...tariff our secondary aluminum exports.







Producing aluminum from scrap is significantly more efficient than primary smelting. If China wants to take away our affordable metal, make them pay premium $ to do it.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25954 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 3:22 pm to
That does shed a light on that issue.
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