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Video from 5 months ago showing the same gun Pretti had can accidentally discharge

Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:28 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:28 pm


As I have been saying, the agent who shot Pretti heard a shot and assumed it was Pretti firing but it was probably the accidental discharge from the other agent grabbing the gun. This all happened in a 3-second span.


This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:31 pm to
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the agent who shot Pretti heard a shot and assumed it was Pretti firing but it was probably the accidental discharge from the other agent grabbing the gun


I have been a supporter of this theory for a while at this point, and it makes me hear the Benny Hill theme every time I think about it.

One frickup after another
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:34 pm to
Very unfortunate if that's what happened
Posted by Zahrim
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:35 pm to
so what, cops hear a gunshot should stop what they are doing with the suspect and investigate of the gun he had did or did not accidently discharge?


frick you are all fools...


Resist arrest with a gun; expect bad things to happen. FAFO.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:39 pm to
Happens to a lot of guys, or so I've heard.
Posted by RTM4
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:40 pm to
Damn that gun is not safe to carry or even own if it just likes to go off with a little slide bump.

I know I hate carrying with a live one in the chamber and it may cost me one day but at least I don't have to worry about an accidental discharge.
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:42 pm to
This is not unprecedented with Sigs.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:45 pm to
Going to keep saying this because it’s true. Governor Walz and mayor Frey are intentionally recruiting agitators to force this type of confrontation. Even if it causes the death of innocent civilians, LE agents, or armed agitators. It’s all the same to them because all they care about is getting the media needle to move.

They have full cooperation in the media to slant the news one and only One Direction. We’ve already seen that with the René Goode video, where it was obvious , she struck the agent after punching the gas pedal when she was explicitly told to stop and get out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:49 pm to
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Very unfortunate if that's what happened
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Yes, especially since the agent who likely killed him did it b/c of at least 2 other agents' frickups
Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:52 pm to
Sounds like Sig Sauer will have a giant lawsuit on their hands
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:54 pm to
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I have been a supporter of this theory for a while at this point, and it makes me hear the Benny Hill theme every time I think about it.


I’ve been a supporter of this theory as well. However, I don’t subscribe to the Benny Hill / Keystone cops angle either. The gun has a verifiable defect that the officer was more than likely unaware of. You can see from the posted video it takes minimal effort for the gun to accidentally discharge. The officer with the gun wasn’t stumbling and bumbling with it.

As I’ve maintained, the officer firing the fatal shot was an unarmed up until the point grey jacket man revealed and unholstered that weapon. This confusion as to who had the weapon and the accidental discharge led to the officer shooting the guy. It wasn’t a cold blooded murder. It was unfortunate series of events capped off by a defective weapon discharging at the worst possible time.
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Yes, especially since the agent who likely killed him did it b/c of at least 2 other agents' frickups


What you are missing is the initial frickup. You know, the one where the gun owner engaged officers with a pistol.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Sounds like Sig Sauer will have a giant lawsuit on their hands


They have been sued over it repeatedly and still sell the weapon.


quote:

Yes, Sig Sauer has faced over 100 lawsuits regarding allegations that the P320 pistol has a design defect causing it to fire without a trigger pull. Plaintiffs, including police officers and federal agents, claim the weapon is prone to unintentional discharges while holstered or during movement. Recent, significant jury verdicts have sided with users, awarding millions in damages, while the company maintains the pistol is safe and that incidents result from user error or improper holsters.

Key details regarding the lawsuits:

Active Litigation: Over 100 lawsuits have been filed, including a class action in Washington and suits in various other states.

Lawsuit Claims: Lawsuits allege the P320 is "lightly triggered" and lacks adequate safety mechanisms, acting like a "set mousetrap".

Key Verdicts: In June 2024, a Georgia jury awarded a man $2.35 million after his P320 fired while being removed from its holster.

Government Action: In October 2025, New Jersey filed a lawsuit against Sig Sauer, seeking to ban the sale of the P320 in the state and mandate a recall, marking a significant escalation in legal action.

Company Response: Sig Sauer launched a voluntary "upgrade" program for the P320 in 2017 to address drop-fire concerns. The company argues that the P320 is not defective and has defended its product in court, stating that many alleged, unintentional, or un-commanded discharges actually involve the trigger being pulled by an external object.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:56 pm to
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Damn that gun is not safe to carry or even own if it just likes to go off with a little slide bump.


The memes were everywhere a few months ago





That one was prescient

Posted 7 months ago
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:57 pm to
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As I’ve maintained, the officer firing the fatal shot was an unarmed up until the point grey jacket man revealed and unholstered that weapon. This confusion as to who had the weapon and the accidental discharge led to the officer shooting the guy.


This along with how they got there is why I hear the Benny Hill theme

Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:58 pm to
Everything I have seen shows the agent who disarmed him has turned away from the pile of people before the first shot is fired.

Unless the gun discharged in the agent's hand after he turned away, it wasnt an accidental discharge.

However, it doesnt matter if it was or not. It doesnt matter whether the dead man was armed or not. If you fight with and obstruct ICE agent's in doing their duty, you deserve whatever you get.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:59 pm to
I've been a supporter of protestors until they get in the way of the people who are trying to get rid of people who I want thrown out of my country.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:59 pm to
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Unless the gun discharged in the agent's hand after he turned away


That's what the theory is
Posted by Reubaltaich
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:03 pm to
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his is not unprecedented with Sigs.


Sigs have these trigger issues for a long time. They are not for novices. This Pretti guy was most likely to be very inexperienced with fire arms, along with injecting himself in the middle of ICE agents.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:04 pm to
The dead dude had the weapon in his hand he wasn’t complying therefore he reached room temperature. I have no qualms with it.
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