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Most recent article on Umanmielen scenario

Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:37 am
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:37 am
Is from an Ole Miss site, but it’s actually pretty good: HottyToddy

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The posture LSU is taking — daring Ole Miss to enforce a contract — feels less like roster building and more like stress testing the entire structure.


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LSU has more than money in play. It has familiarity. Kiffin didn’t bring Pete Golding or Randall Joyner, but he did add Lou Spanos, Ole Miss’ former assistant defensive line coach and a key influence with the Umanmielen family. That’s not accidental. That’s leverage


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Do contracts mean anything, or are they just speed bumps for richer programs?


Sounds like the Rebs are about to get dicked down by NCAA bylaws, if I’m taking this guy’s word for it.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:41 am to
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Kiffin didn’t bring Pete Golding or Randall Joyner, but he did add Lou Spanos
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That’s not accidental. That’s leverage


For the millionth time, this happens every single time a coach and his staff go from one school to another.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81597 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:43 am to
Acting like he brought his employee with him only for leverage for one player. They're so stupid.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:46 am to
The most interesting part is the bit about Ole Miss wanting to see if contracts are enforceable outside the portal window.

This is either posturing or incredibly stupid — because enforceable or not, the contract has nothing to do with the transfer portal.

Prohibiting transfer is federally illegal, an NCAA violation, and the only relevance the contract has to the entire situation is if Ole Miss attempts to pursue damages.

They either enter his name or get sued & potentially penalized by the league in addition. The only question is whether or what we pay them.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
105525 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:47 am to
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Acting like he brought his employee with him only for leverage for one player.

Right. Let's not hire the right guy for all of the other players. We are going to bring this one coach here for this one player.
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1557 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:48 am to
So Lane brought that defensive line coach just to recruit one player, they really are some idiots.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19289 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:49 am to
Anyone else hoping Ole Miss wins this one?

If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4856 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:51 am to
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recent article on Umanmielen scenario
did the article mention how Ole Miss is doing the exact same thing wit one of their recent recruits?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7474 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:52 am to
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If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?

You need to educate yourself. Or just read my previous reply.

The powers that be decided to die on the hill that NIL is not pay-for-play. Therefore NIL contracts have nothing to do with playing at a particular school.

Revenue sharing is actually enforceable, so we probably have a buyout to pay.

No contract can restrict a player’s ability to enter the transfer portal. It is both federally illegal & an NCAA violation.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:53 am
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
83987 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:53 am to
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If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?


LSU wants to enforce the contract by paying the buyout and then signing the player.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4960 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:53 am to
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Anyone else hoping Ole Miss wins this one? If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?


Either I’m not understanding the situation or you’re not understanding the situation. It is my understanding there is an ‘out’ clause in the contract (i.e. a buyout). That was specifically put there in the event the player wanted to remove himself from the contract. Both parties agreed to this condition. If he pays the buyout he is free to do what wants.

Again, I may be misunderstanding the specifics.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7474 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:53 am to
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did the article mention how Ole Miss is doing the exact same thing wit one of their recent recruits?

The guy’s name is mentioned but no comparison drawn lol
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81597 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:56 am to
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So Lane brought that defensive line coach just to recruit one player, they really are some idiots.


And employed him at Ole miss for 3 year to prepare for this day.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11910 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:58 am to
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Do contracts mean anything, or are they just speed bumps for richer programs?
"But-but-but I thought we had just as much money" - the average Ole Miss fan.
Posted by Dicken Nuggets
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:59 am to
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Anyone else hoping Ole Miss wins this one? If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?


What exactly do you think needs to be enforced? The buyout? Allegedly LSU is willing to pay it. I don't know if that is true or not which is why I used the word allegedly.



Posted by GreenTiger12
Port City
Member since Oct 2016
83 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:01 pm to
Yes I really appreciate how they mention the linebackers name that ole miss did this with but don’t draw any parallels
Posted by covlatiger
Member since Feb 2006
2419 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:01 pm to
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If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?



Like a coach’s contract? That’s what buyouts are for…

I don’t especially like it - but it’s where we are.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27287 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Anyone else hoping Ole Miss wins this one?

If contracts aren’t enforceable, then what are we even doing?
are you implying that a head coach should never be able to leave their school until the contract is up? if the player's contract gives him an out like it does for coaches, there is nothing wrong with the player leaving...the optics aren't great, but stuff like this happen in the real world all the time.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7474 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:15 pm to

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if the player's contract gives him an out like it does for coaches, there is nothing wrong with the player leaving

As it has been written, so it shall be
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5584 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:20 pm to
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Do contracts mean anything, or are they just speed bumps for richer programs?


Maybe they should pose this question to Clemson.

The Ole Miss bunch sure is doing their best to navigate the tightrope of hypocrisy.
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