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I have a question about ballistics.

Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:12 pm
I'm shooting a 300wsm 180g core lokt, 1" high at 100 yards. I'm switching to a 150g core lokt. The question is how much difference can I expect between the 2 without sighting the rifle in between the 2 rounds. Will the 150g be lower at the same distance? Of coarse i will shoot on paper asap, I'm just wondering what the opinion of the board will be.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:21 pm to
The 150 will shoot flatter at all distances but I’d shoot a 3 shot group with the 150 and 180 before dialing the scope in. Your rifle may favor one over the other.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Will the 150g be lower at the same distance?


Generally a lighter round is faster so it would generally be higher than a heavier bullet in the same cartridge. Then with that said it could still be lower.

There are way to many variables to give you a definitive answer.

It possible they could have the same POI at 100yds, its possible the POI could be 3" off in any direction at 100yds.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:24 pm to
You should be able to find a ballistics chart for both.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

1" high at 100 yards


I never understood this theory. Just zero it in at 150 yards.
Posted by TIGERRVER
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:27 pm to
There is no way to tell how your rifle/barrel will shoot different bullets (projectiles). At 100 yards, velocity difference between the 2 cartridges will not likely have a significant influence (there should be similar velocity loss at 100 yards, at least not enough to affect bullet drop), assuming they are both factory ammo loaded to achieve similar speed. However, barrel twist rate, barrel harmonics, etc. can result in a significant or minor shift in point of impact (POI). Also, if you are not cleaning the barrel between ammo types, the residual copper/fouling can affect the 1st or 2nd shot with the new ammo until the barrel develops the "new" fouling with the new projectile.

TLDR: There is no way to tell until you shoot both.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

I never understood this theory. Just zero it in at 150 yards.


Its a maximum point blank range zero. It makes sense, but nobody ever does it the correct way. They just choose an arbitrary range and roll it, which works down here because we normally dont shoot far. Some ballistic programs will calculate this for you.

Posted by TIGERRVER
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

If the 2 rounds had the same muzzle velocity the lighter bullet would be higher at a given distance generally.


Bullet weight has no affect on drop......like in science class.....drop a bowling ball and a rubber playground ball of the same size, and they hit the ground at the same time.

At equal muzzle velocities (MV's) in the same atmospheric conditions, the only variable on bullet drop is ballistics coefficient (BC). In general terms, most heavier bullets have higher BC's due to their longer, more aerodynamic shape, and they therefore will have less drop than a lighter projectile with a lower BC since they maintain speed better than a bullet with lower BC.

So, at equal muzzle velocities, the heavier bullet will generally have a higher POI at distance if it has a higher BC. The issue is that most factory-loaded cartridges with heavier projectiles will have a lower muzzle velocity than a lighter projectile, resulting in a lower POI for the heavy projectile. But this is not due to weight, rather due to lower MV.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10050 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:41 pm to
It should shoot higher than an inch high being it's lighter and faster.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19409 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:42 pm to
Remington no longer has their ballistic calculator on the website.

https://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics-calculator

You should be able to punch in some numbers on this calculator and see the results.
1" high with that caliber is probably around zero at 170-180 yards.





Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:46 pm to
You can look up a ballistics chart for each grain and see what the difference is.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40643 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:49 pm to
I don't have an answer other than I shoot a .270 and had something similar happen.

I usually shoot 150g rounds thinking I'm not shooting that far, lets send a heavier bullet. I messed up and grabbed a box of 130g rounds a year or 2 ago.

I worried about it so I went to target shoot the 130's and find out. They hit dead on at 100 yards.

I put a 150g in, still dead on.

Didn't seem to matter.

I'm sure if I backed out to 300+ yards there may be a difference, but my main stand has 2 shooting lanes. One is 100 yards, and the other is 150 yards.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1386 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:51 pm to
Core-Lokts…. Woof
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15026 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:52 pm to
Yea I had I backwards.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 4:11 pm
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2300 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:57 pm to
This. Bullet weight, muzzle velocity doesn’t matter. The barrel’s harmonics dictate change in POI. Shooting even the same bullet at a higher velocity won’t necessarily make it impact higher. It’s all about the individual barrel, pressure, and harmonics… and BC.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 4:12 pm
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
2383 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Core-Lokts
They leave a short blood trail a foot wide in my experience.
Posted by TIGERRVER
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
403 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

quote:
Bullet weight has no affect on drop


Really none! Well gosh dang.

quote:
like in science class.....drop a bowling ball and a rubber playground ball of the same size, and they hit the ground at the same time.


You should go back and take that class again.


Yeah, maybe you should take science class again. Every object on earth accelerates when dropped at 9.81 m/s^2 or 32.2 ft/sec^2....bowling ball, playground ball, army tank, aircraft carrier, bag of feathers. The only thing that would reduce an object's time of fall (acceleration of fall) is air resistance (drag). So, if you drop two objects from a bridge with the same dimensions (say a 12 inch sphere), one weighs 1 lb., and the other weighs 100 lbs, they hit the ground at the same exact time.

I'd like to hear your explanation to disprove Newton's universal law of gravity.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 4:13 pm
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
2383 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Newton's universal law of gravity
I didn't realize my general question would turn into this! It is entertaining tho
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15026 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 4:18 pm to
Thanks chief I realized where I was wrong.
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