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Engineers of the OB needed (bridge advice)

Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1804 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:27 am
Gents, I have a 12’ span that I think will be easier to build a small bridge over rather than redo the blocked culvert and place a new bigger one then fill over it. My question is, will (2) 16 foot long, 8” in diameter pilings support 6k pounds for a 12’ span? I plan on spacing them 70” apart to be directly below my tractor tires and having 2 feet on each side in the dirt. TIA
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28156 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:38 am to
I'm not an engineer but I would have 4, 2 on either side.

6k is a lot of weight for 8"
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
1845 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:14 am to
does it need to be emergency vehicle accessible? how did you arrive at 6k lbs?
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1804 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

how did you arrive at 6k lbs?


The weight of my tractor, FEL, and rotary cutter
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47247 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:19 am to
See if you can find a used flat rack shipping “container”
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
557 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:20 am to
I doubt there is a span table for a piling/round post because they aren’t conventionally used for that. I couldn’t even find a span table for a 8x8 timber which is odd. There is a very rough rule of thumb to use 1” of thickness and width for every foot you are spanning, which would be a true 12x12 timber, but that’s not with a 6k rolling load. 8” piles are way light.

Spent my career in construction and Eng, and I have multiple bridges on my land in MS, and also low water crossings which support loaded log trucks (80k lb). Bridges that I drive my tractors over, 1 has 18”x24” beams with 3x12 decking and the other is an 18 wheeler float trailer.

If it was mine, I’d use 18x12 (18” in vertical) minimum with 3x12 decking, all treated at .80 pcf. And make sure the bridge is in a straight section of the creek, or it will wash out. Broken concrete or rip rap on the upstream side of the bridge will help it not wash but it still should be in a straight run of the creek.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3160 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:27 am to
I would say maybe/probably depending on the soil and other parameters (slope of bank, depth of creek/ditch. How would you drive them? If you're going to press them in the ground with an excavator then maybe not as it's hard to get them in straight without disturbing the skin friction.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40594 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:29 am to
Some guys I know bought an old flat bed semi trailer that was in rough shape. Cut the axels off and drug it across the creek they were crossing with a tractor and FEL.

Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6935 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:54 am to
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^


It doesn't have to be an 18 wheeler trailer, any flatbed should work, gooseneck down to bumper pull will span 12 ft
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1961 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:02 pm to
There was actually an Auburn masters thesis done for just what you want….they studied how you could build a forestry bridge for skidders using harvested trees. You might be able to google and find it.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46706 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

There was actually an Auburn masters thesis done for just what you want….
da Vinci invented the self supporting bridge in the 15th century



OP, get a flat trailer and use that. It should last forever or close to it
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25569 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:27 pm to
I bought an old flat bed frame from the DOD. Works great
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9680 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

See if you can find a used flat rack shipping “container”


Posted by Ppro
natchez
Member since Dec 2013
477 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:00 pm to
Not an engineer but if you are able to drive pilings and put bridge on top you would increase strength tremendously
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29519 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:59 pm to
We have a few bridges like this in the woods. None are only 2.
Dig in 24inches. Sill plates on each end. Three 8x8s laying on gravel parralel to the ditch. Four 8x8s on top running across the span. 3x12 lumber on top. Use bolts or large spikes to attach these cross boards... Which will also greatly increase the beam load capacity.

It will support 6k easy.

I would add significant blocking between the beams just to avoid any racking.



Edit: not an engineer. I had a german grandfather with a penchant for tasking his young and teen grandsons with constructing projects like these. In his words, an engineer is for when you care about material cost. We built a wooden bridge that was able to support a john deere 550 dozer routinely.

I believe the oldest of us was 16 at the time.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4783 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:53 pm to
Timber pilings?

What kind of decking on top?
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2758 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:30 pm to
Using an old trailer or container is going to save you time, money, and doing it twice. If you insist on building it, the foundation on each end will be what makes or breaks the project over time. If it moves or twists at the ends, it won't matter what size timber you use. You avoid this problem with the old trailer because its already engineered to support the weight in its own design.
Posted by White Bear
OPINIONS & A-HOLES
Member since Jul 2014
17268 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Auburn masters thesis done for just what you want….they studied how you could build a forestry bridge for skidders using harvested trees.
you fill the depression with cull logs, include at least one holler log aka “culvert”.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 7:07 pm
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