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Any update on using AI for traffic light management?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:01 am
This shite could so easily be optimized.
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:02 am to GregMaddux
It's needed at several intersections here. You'll wait for 5 mins with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Particularly with light sensors and pad sensors already installed, you'd think the transition would be easy.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:05 am to idlewatcher
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You'll wait for 5 mins with no cars coming in the opposite direction.
This. AI should turn that intersection into flashing yellow and red lights during these times. Let it flow.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:05 am to GregMaddux
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"We have delivered a signal system that has made Baton Rouge one of the most connected cities in the U.S.," Broome said.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:08 am to GregMaddux
Baton Rouge will have multiple luncheons to assemble a team to do multiple studies before nothing is ever done.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:09 am to GregMaddux
My hunch is Louisiana trial lawyers will sue AI into oblivion.
Trial lawyers may single handedly make AI to conclude the human race is not worth the headache.
Trial lawyers may single handedly make AI to conclude the human race is not worth the headache.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:15 am to TDFreak
quote:The main thing I’ve taken away from watching Landman is that litigation is out of control.
Trial lawyers may single handedly make AI to conclude the human race is not worth the headache.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:16 am to GregMaddux
Ive said this before on TD and Ill say it again if Kiran, Nakamoto, Brittany Weiss or any of the local invesigative news teams are reading...
There needs to be an investigation and audit into the MOVEBR, traffic light syncing and the Advanced Traffic Management Center. There is no way it is working as advertised.
There needs to be an investigation and audit into the MOVEBR, traffic light syncing and the Advanced Traffic Management Center. There is no way it is working as advertised.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:18 am to GregMaddux
Discussed it the other day..
Lights at major intersections could easily have cameras so it can see how much traffic is there and optimally run the light change sequences.
Lights at major intersections could easily have cameras so it can see how much traffic is there and optimally run the light change sequences.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:29 am to GregMaddux
this would involve competent government getting competent government employees to do something
which doesn't exist
which doesn't exist
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:30 am to GregMaddux
It exists already. I went to a seminar about this recently and Gulf shores has implented it on all signals on Beach Road and the hwy heading down to the beach. They have seen significant reduction in delays.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:41 am to GregMaddux
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This shite could so easily be optimized.
It seems that we are in quite a transition of how this can be done right now.
Old model: Raspberry Pi or such sits on top of light system, has inputs and outputs based on sensors monitoring traffic at that intersection. Requires just power and cost.
New model: Series of sensors will just report to the AI system. The light will already know the traffic that is moving from all directions in the cloud and based on patterns. So much better that it is not worth investing in the old model at this time. Requires power, cost, and connectivity.
The answer will probably be Starlink. But not until they can get the cost of both the transponders and service down to almost nothing.
Another one of those 'just a matter of time' where AI is the answer, but not yet.
This also explains the basic concept of the need for the massive AI data centers. Because in situations like these the actual computing is removed from the traffic light and moved into the data center.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:18 am to GregMaddux
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This. AI should turn that intersection into flashing yellow and red lights during these times. Let it flow.
Just about every intersection should be like this after 9 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:42 am to Kingpenm3
quote:Starlink is absolutely not required nor will it ever be. Any place that needs this level of traffic management has been saturated with terrestrial connectivity options for decades.
The answer will probably be Starlink. But not until they can get the cost of both the transponders and service down to almost nothing.
If any company is positioned to handle traffic management, it's Google. They already mitigate traffic to an extent by routing Maps users around congested areas. Applying their data to traffic light control would work wonders. Any system that reacts to what's happening at an intersection *right now* is already too late. An optimal system would know not only where every driver is but where they will be, and when.
quote:When "AI" is the answer, it will be driving the cars, not just working the traffic lights. Lights won't be needed anymore.
Another one of those 'just a matter of time' where AI is the answer, but not yet.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:44 am to GregMaddux
Im sure Elon could have something out by tomorrow if you asked.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:00 am to GregMaddux
AI can't do shite about drivers that don't take their foot off the brake until four seconds after the light turns green.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:01 am to idlewatcher
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It's needed at several intersections here. You'll wait for 5 mins with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Particularly with light sensors and pad sensors already installed, you'd think the transition would be easy.
Easy transition.... with Govt and DOTD.......
In another 10 years a lot of cars will just keep a constant flow on roads and there will be far less delays. I know a lot of people hate these Tesla cars but until you actually sit behind the wheel and let it completely drive you from BR to NO, you don't really see the future coming. Or even driving for you in city traffic. Down dark roads at night or in the rain. I'm not talking Lidar/Radar keeping a distance from other cars, I'm talking complete Full Self Driving. It's unbelievable.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:02 am to TDFreak
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My hunch is Louisiana trial lawyers will sue AI into oblivion.
Trial lawyers may single handedly make AI to conclude the human race is not worth the headache.
We'll always have Greenland.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:08 am to GregMaddux
They us it now - both the state and the consultants. The modeling has been in existence and in use for years.
The issue is development and volume. I have watched AI modeling address and intersection in Baton Rouge. It is awesome as long as it is not looking at rushhour ties because it answers always comes back with volume is too heavy to optimize.
Parishes and cities allow over development without additional roadways. The other issue is access locked massive neighborhoods.
A perfect example of development destroying flow is Essen Lane. You have to use Essen lane to travel 100 feet because parking lots do not exist and back roads do not have access into other businesses, so you are forced out onto Essen to create backlog.
Just one example: you leave Indias Restaurant and want to go to Walgreens,
You can use Flanders Drive, you have to cross 3 lanes blocking or slowing traffic to get in the turn, to then get in the through lane to get back in the turn lane to then cross three lanes of traffic again.
Each one of these movements can create up to 30 seconds of delay.
The camera sensors exist now too. They can break and wear out over time and wind can move them so that they do not get the best reading of the lanes of traffic. However, when functioning they still have the mathematical volume issue.
Every little tweak affects soemone else while it benefits another.
The issue is development and volume. I have watched AI modeling address and intersection in Baton Rouge. It is awesome as long as it is not looking at rushhour ties because it answers always comes back with volume is too heavy to optimize.
Parishes and cities allow over development without additional roadways. The other issue is access locked massive neighborhoods.
A perfect example of development destroying flow is Essen Lane. You have to use Essen lane to travel 100 feet because parking lots do not exist and back roads do not have access into other businesses, so you are forced out onto Essen to create backlog.
Just one example: you leave Indias Restaurant and want to go to Walgreens,
You can use Flanders Drive, you have to cross 3 lanes blocking or slowing traffic to get in the turn, to then get in the through lane to get back in the turn lane to then cross three lanes of traffic again.
Each one of these movements can create up to 30 seconds of delay.
The camera sensors exist now too. They can break and wear out over time and wind can move them so that they do not get the best reading of the lanes of traffic. However, when functioning they still have the mathematical volume issue.
Every little tweak affects soemone else while it benefits another.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:18 am to 6R12
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In another 10 years a lot of cars will just keep a constant flow on roads and there will be far less delays.
Who is going to tell all the Central Americans driving around in 24 year old pick up trucks?
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