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California is Screwed when it comes to Gas Prices - I mean, really screwed

Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25092 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:48 pm
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"HEY AI, WHY ARE CALIFORNIA GAS PRICES SO HIGH?"


Valero and Chevron aren't exactly "packing their bags for Texas" out of spite—they're fleeing a regulatory hellscape that's made staying profitable impossible. Chevron relocated its HQ to Houston (smart move), and Valero just ate a cool $1.1 billion impairment to shut down its Benicia refinery by April 2026, with Phillips 66 already winding down its LA-area plant by the end of this year. That's roughly 17% of the state's refining capacity vanishing because—shocker—endless emissions rules, stockpiling mandates, and hostile policies finally broke the camel's back.

And how does this "destroy" gas prices? California's genius lawmakers mandated a special "cleaner-burning" boutique blend (CaRFG/CARBOB) that's so unique and woke, no one else in the U.S. bothers producing it regularly. It's more expensive to make, isolates California as a "gasoline island" with no inbound pipelines from the rest of the country, and relies on a shrinking handful of local refineries.

quote:

"California gas is different due to a unique, cleaner-burning fuel blend mandated by the state for lower pollution, stricter environmental rules, higher taxes, and its isolated 'gasoline island' market, which relies on limited local refineries, making it costlier to produce and supply than standard U.S. gasoline."


Valero and Chevron (among others) were major producers of this petroleum. With them bailing, they're already ramping up imports—Those tankers take 30-40 days to cross the Pacific, rack up massive shipping costs, and expose us to every global disruption imaginable.

Result? Tighter supply, wilder volatility, and even higher prices at the pump—because nothing says "environmental progress" like shipping fuel halfway around the world from places with looser standards. Enjoy the ride California - KEEP VOTING BLUE; it's only going to get more expensive.
Posted by BoomerandSooner
Top of Texas
Member since Sep 2025
1432 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:51 pm to
Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14921 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31674 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.

Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26252 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:56 pm to
They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again. Smog used to be a nightly joke on the Johnny Carson show. Pick your poison I guess.
Posted by wartiger2004
9X National Champions WDE RIP CK
Member since Aug 2011
20027 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:59 pm to
Just got finished watching Die Hard, has was 74 cents in 1988 in Los Angeles.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43224 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:00 pm to
Are you saying the smog is from the refineries around LA?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12855 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:04 pm to
Sure, back in the early 70s.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8476 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:06 pm to
Clark the lib is probably thinking about the pre-catalytic converter days when the muffler on his VW bus use to leave a trail of smog in its wake.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43224 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:08 pm to
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converter days when the muffler on his VW bus use to leave a trail of smog in its wake.


Yeah man they're making great points about the unnecessary high gas prices in the socialist Mecca.

I'm just gonna go in there and talk about the smog problem building up on the 101
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5986 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:10 pm to
Damn German gasoline policy...
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42266 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:12 pm to
Your stupidity is astounding.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8045 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again. Smog used to be a nightly joke on the Johnny Carson show. Pick your poison I guess.


Those were the days of leaded gasoline and no catalytic converters.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Dig Deep
North Shore
Member since May 2022
182 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:34 pm to
Pick YOUR poison, don’t poison the rest of America.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26252 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:30 pm to
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my stupidity is astounding.


Yep
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39789 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:31 pm to
Is this gonna drive up prices all over the nation?
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
3353 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Are you saying the smog is from the refineries around LA?

wut?
it would be reducing smog by tens of millions of cars using a cleaner burning fuel. how is that difficult to understand? not saying it's the right call but come on guy
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25092 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:42 pm to
Nope.. only California because the rest of the nation has common sense and don't require the special fuel that California's New Green Deal requires.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:46 pm to
Also gas station all across the state are closing or about to close because it cost way over a million dollars to upgrade the tanks. Small stations can't afford that. Now competition amongst stations is going down which will drive prices up.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19374 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:54 pm to
So, do the foreign imported blends have to meet the CARBOB standards or is that only local refiners?

No, If fees are paid (carbon credits)

Who pays fees on imports? CA taxpayers
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