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Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker Signs Bill Legalizing Assisted Suicide for Terminally Ill
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:03 am
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Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker expanded his state’s culture of death on Friday by signing a bill into law legalizing assisted suicide for terminally ill people.
Illinois is now the 12th state, plus Washington, DC, that allows physicians to assist terminally ill people in killing themselves — all in the name of “choice,” compassion, and easing end-of-life suffering. Pritzker signed the bill despite concerns from opponents that such a law could be a slippery slope (look no further than Canada) and could be used to coerce people with disabilities and financial hardships to choose death.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
This fat piece of shite is a moron but I actually agree with this.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:15 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Bad idea. It sounds positive because you think of it as compassionate for people with awful terminal diseases, but it quickly becomes a cost-saving measure like in Canada. "You know, those cancer treatments can get pretty expensive. Have you considered a death pod?" This is not pro-life.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:15 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Will he start with himself?
Who determines who get assistance in offing themselves?
I mean, if a person in a depression decides to target themselves, do they get help in by Dr. Kevorkian?
Or, do they get psychological help so they don’t use a permanent solution to what could be a temporary problem?
Who determines who get assistance in offing themselves?
I mean, if a person in a depression decides to target themselves, do they get help in by Dr. Kevorkian?
Or, do they get psychological help so they don’t use a permanent solution to what could be a temporary problem?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:23 am to Ingeniero
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This is not pro life
Have you ever watched a loved one suffer with debilitating pain for months? The type where they soil themselves?
The type where they spend most of their days and nights crying?
I could go on, but I feel like you understand what I’m speaking of.
It’s no way for once proud, productive and healthy people to live.
If they decide they no longer want to suffer, who are we to stand on their way. It can either happen surrounded by family and friends, falling into a deep sleep….or they can stick a pistol in their mouth and pull the trigger.
Alone
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:27 am to geauxbrown
Because the government can misuse it and start ordering doctors to kill people instead of treat them.
“Oh, you’re 70 and have an aggressive cancer? Y’know the treatment is going to be too expensive, so Medicare/Medicaid won’t cover it at your age. I’m afraid there’s only one other option…”
And elderly people are never easily persuaded by fraudsters and scammers.
“Oh, you’re 70 and have an aggressive cancer? Y’know the treatment is going to be too expensive, so Medicare/Medicaid won’t cover it at your age. I’m afraid there’s only one other option…”
And elderly people are never easily persuaded by fraudsters and scammers.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:28 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
A determined person will find a way even if not legal.
We don't need to further dehumanize our culture by officially sanctioning it.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:29 am to geauxbrown
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Have you ever watched a loved one suffer with debilitating pain for months? The type where they soil themselves?
The question is what counts as Terminally Ill,
Yes someone who's going to die painfully and out of their mind in the next 5 days, vs someone who is depressed and has cancer and doesn't want to go to Chemo/Treatment.
That sounds silly, but in many countries, that line has gone even further to anyone with depression can off themselves.
This movement is always slippery slope,
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:35 am to geauxbrown
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geauxbrown
I totally understand and it's why I mentioned debilitating terminal disease in my original post. But I have no confidence that this won't be abused by the government or insurance. There are tons of reports from Canada already that people are being offered medical assisted suicide due to wait times and in situations that don't meet the the criteria. What happens when your insurance company denies your chemo but says they'll pay for euthanasia? There are young people diagnosed with cancer with a good prognosis who want to kill themselves instead. Do we honor those?
Euthanasia is a moral and ethical minefield. I'm not totally dismissing your point about end of life suffering because it's very real and very tragic. I'm just saying we have proof that no amount of safeguards work in a system like this.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:37 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I'm not surprised. He's a fu#$&,ng scumbag.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:37 am to Ingeniero
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It was not long into her practice, however, that Li’s confidence in the direction of her country’s MAID program began to falter. For all of her expertise, not even Li was sure what to do about a patient in his 30s whom she encountered in 2018.
The man had gone to the emergency room complaining of excruciating pain and was eventually diagnosed with cancer. The prognosis was good, a surgeon assured him, with a 65 percent chance of a cure. But the man said he didn’t want treatment; he wanted MAID. Startled, the surgeon referred him to a medical oncologist to discuss chemo; perhaps the man just didn’t want surgery. The patient proceeded to tell the medical oncologist that he didn’t want treatment of any kind; he wanted MAID. He said the same thing to a radiation oncologist, a palliative-care physician, and a psychiatrist, before finally complaining to the patient-relations department that the hospital was barring his access to MAID. Li arranged to meet with him.
Canada’s MAID law defines a “grievous and irremediable medical condition” in part as a “serious and incurable illness, disease, or disability.” As for what constitutes incurability, however, the law says nothing—and of the various textual ambiguities that caused anxiety for clinicians early on, this one ranked near the top. Did “incurable” mean a lack of any available treatment? Did it mean the likelihood of an available treatment not working? Prominent MAID advocates put forth what soon became the predominant interpretation: A medical condition was incurable if it could not be cured by means acceptable to the patient.
This had made sense to Li. If an elderly woman with chronic myelogenous leukemia had no wish to endure a highly toxic course of chemo and radiation, why should she be compelled to? But here was a young man with a likely curable cancer who nevertheless was adamant about dying. “I mean, he was so, so clear,” Li told me. “I talked to him about What if you had a 100 percent chance? Would you want treatment? And he said no.” He didn’t want to suffer through the treatment or the side effects, he explained; just having a colonoscopy had traumatized him. When Li assured the man that they could treat the side effects, he said she wasn’t understanding him: Yes, they could give him medication for the pain, but then he would have to first experience the pain. He didn’t want to experience the pain.
What was Li left with? According to prevailing standards, the man’s refusal to attempt treatment rendered his disease incurable and his natural death was reasonably foreseeable. He met the eligibility criteria as Li understood them. But the whole thing seemed wrong to her. Seeking advice, she described the basics of the case in a private email group for MAID practitioners under the heading “Eligible, but Reasonable?” “And what was very clear to me from the replies I got,” Li told me, “is that many people have no ethical or clinical qualms about this—that it’s all about a patient’s autonomy, and if a patient wants this, it’s not up to us to judge. We should provide.”
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:39 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
should start with himself since he has a terminal case of TDS
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
While I think the gov is a joke I can agree with this if it’s done right. I watched my mother get butchered and treated like a lab rat by doctors for her cancer for 5 years. That’s something I hope nobody goes through. It was brutal.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Huge props to Illinois, hopefully all states will follow.
For more info, read about Death With Dignity .
For more info, read about Death With Dignity .
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
This is set up in Obamacare. That's how evil Democrats have been. Also, this past week Glenn Beck, has been dealing with a Canadian lady who is facing the mix of social medicine and assisted suicide culture. It's sad, and not about compassion for the sick as people fall for.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:27 am to retired_tiger
Not surprising to see the evil leftie bot pop in.
Look into where this really leads...
Look into where this really leads...
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Glenn Beck has offered to pay for surgery for Jolene Van Alstine, a Canadian woman suffering from a rare parathyroid condition, after she was approved for medically assisted death due to her inability to receive timely treatment in Saskatchewan. Beck's intervention highlights concerns about the healthcare system's handling of patients with complex medical needs.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Thou Shall Not Kill
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:33 am to jimmy the leg
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Will he start with himself?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:35 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Drowning in your own spit dying from ALS, or falling asleep and not waking up?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:36 am to HagaDaga
I am old enough to have assisted several family members and friends thru their last months.
For some of them, if a physician assisted death would have been available, they would have done it. Sometimes, hospice is unable to eliminate pain.
Physician assisted death isn't for everyone and that's ok. But for those who do want it, it should be an option, and they should receive as much compassion as we provide our pets instead of being forced to live out their last days in torture and pain.
For some of them, if a physician assisted death would have been available, they would have done it. Sometimes, hospice is unable to eliminate pain.
Physician assisted death isn't for everyone and that's ok. But for those who do want it, it should be an option, and they should receive as much compassion as we provide our pets instead of being forced to live out their last days in torture and pain.
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