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Trump Says Ukraine is Losing - But That’s Not the Situation on the Ground
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:09 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:09 am
Sure, Kyiv’s military faces major challenges against Moscow’s massive army, but analysts say a Russian breakthrough is highly unlikely.
WSJ
If Ukraine can reconstitute their reserves through recruitment, they can outlast the winter and stall any Trump demands to concede to Russian terms in the “peace” deal.
They should continue to reject onerous deals and use our long range weapons to start striking the Kremlin. That would bring Putin/Trump to the table…
WSJ
quote:
President Trump says Ukraine is losing the war against Russia. That’s not what it looks like to Ukrainian Army Maj. Oleh Hlushko, a battalion commander whose men repelled another assault on their part of the southeastern front this week.
“Occasionally, they manage to raise their flags and claim that a position has been taken, but we then conduct clearing operations, remove the symbols, and the position remains under our control,” said Hlushko, of the Separate Presidential Brigade
If Ukraine can reconstitute their reserves through recruitment, they can outlast the winter and stall any Trump demands to concede to Russian terms in the “peace” deal.
They should continue to reject onerous deals and use our long range weapons to start striking the Kremlin. That would bring Putin/Trump to the table…
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:12 am to RFK
Yeah a side that is winning is totally ripping 45 year old amputees from their homes and forcing them to conscript
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:17 am to goldennugget
Why doesn’t mighty Mother Russia just end the war?
Why didn’t they take Kyiv in 3 days like they were originally instructed in 2022?
Ukraine is going to win this war, with or without US support.
We need to decide what side of history we want to be on.
Why didn’t they take Kyiv in 3 days like they were originally instructed in 2022?
Ukraine is going to win this war, with or without US support.
We need to decide what side of history we want to be on.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:21 am to RFK
quote:Let's see .... on the one hand the POTUS makes a claim. On the other, a fricking Major in the army makes a claim. RFK and the idiot journalist author weigh those equally.
President Trump says Ukraine is losing the war against Russia. That’s not what it looks like to Ukrainian Army Maj. Oleh Hlushko
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:27 am to RFK
Ukraine is losing the war of attrition.
And if the war continues they will continue to lose dudes that they cannot replace. The Institute for the Study of War says that a majority of Ukrainian battalions are down to 50% strength here in December 2025. That means they no longer have the ability to conduct major offensive operations, which means they are not going to be able to drive the Russians out of Donbas. So this idea that Ukraine is going to get a peace negotiation where they are able to keep all of their territory is wishful thinking.
And if the war continues they will continue to lose dudes that they cannot replace. The Institute for the Study of War says that a majority of Ukrainian battalions are down to 50% strength here in December 2025. That means they no longer have the ability to conduct major offensive operations, which means they are not going to be able to drive the Russians out of Donbas. So this idea that Ukraine is going to get a peace negotiation where they are able to keep all of their territory is wishful thinking.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:29 am to RollTide1987
Ok. So use the ATCAMs we gave them to strike Red Square.
Thats how you reason with dictators.
Thats how you reason with dictators.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:33 am to RFK
First, Russia never said they would take Kiev in three days, again that was the US's Mark Milley said that, which no doubt a BS.. Ukraine had the biggest strongest army in Europe when this war started, Nato had been building it for years, loaded them with weapons and they were hurting Russia at the start of the war, but most of those soilders are gone, Russia adjusted and now they are a grinding machine. They continue grinding westward, nothing Ukraine can do to stop it.. Ukraine and the EU are both broke, they might steal Russian Assets to pay for the war but I doubt it. So, do you Nato is going to send troops, not going to happen.. EU countries are cowards and have been since the start this is a war for all of Europe but only Ukrainians can fight for it.. Give me a break...
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:33 am to RFK
quote:
Ukraine is losing the war of attrition.
And if the war continues they will continue to lose dudes that they cannot replace. The Institute for the Study of War says that a majority of Ukrainian battalions are down to 50% strength here in December 2025. That means they no longer have the ability to conduct major offensive operations, which means they are not going to be able to drive the Russians out of Donbas. So this idea that Ukraine is going to get a peace negotiation where they are able to keep all of their territory is wishful thinking.
Russia is in the driver's seat and is going for a grind it out type conflict. They historically have done pretty well in those types of conflicts.
Europe is going to keep fighting to the last Ukrainian.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:34 am to RFK
quote:
Ukraine is going to win this war, with or without US support.
Cool. So we dont need to send them money.
quote:
We need to decide what side of history we want to be on.
How much money have we sent to Ukraine already?
Edit: Seeing about 187 Billion dollars. Anyone who says that's not enough to be counted on the "right side of history" can get fricked.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 4:39 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:36 am to RFK
quote:
Why didn’t they take Kyiv in 3 days like they were originally instructed in 2022?
From what crevice inside your anus did you come to this conclusion. Watch ABC news less often. RFK? So you're against the vaccines but pro-Ukraine? That's freakin odd, because the Ukraine harbored dozens of bio-weapon labs. You can't be serious.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:38 am to bamalee
quote:Captured Russian officers and tank crews confirmed they were told to take Kyiv and prepare for a parade in Kyiv’s downtown square.
First, Russia never said they would take Kiev in three days, again that was the US's Mark Milley said that, which no doubt a BS.
They also had maps from the 1980s which shows you how confident Russia was in taking Ukraine in less than a week.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:40 am to RFK
Sooooo in other words, sources close to the matter. Gotcha.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:49 am to RFK
quote:
WSJ
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:52 am to RFK
quote:
Trump Says Ukraine is Losing
They are
quote:
But That’s Not the Situation on the Ground
Damn dude, you've devolved from a troll to a comically hopeless, baggy pants farce of a troll
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:55 am to RFK
quote:What, exactly, is the US interest in this clusterfrick and why is it Europe’s problem and not ours to deal with?…
We need to decide what side of history we want to be on
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:09 am to RFK
quote:
If Ukraine can reconstitute their reserves through recruitment, they can outlast the winter and stall any Trump demands to concede to Russian terms in the “peace” deal. They should continue to reject onerous deals and use our long range weapons to start striking the Kremlin. That would bring Putin/Trump to the table…
You aren’t a serious person.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:28 am to RFK
quote:
Why doesn’t mighty Mother Russia just end the war?
Because this war leans more as a policing action than a genocide. Once Putin annexes these regions they have to live and work with the people. If you listen to Putin’s side they’ve been doing this since the 8th century with ebbs and flows.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:29 am to RFK
American missiles hitting the Kremlin would be WW3. Terrible idea
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:29 am to RFK
Dude, it was never said by Putin or his Generals, captured soilders will say anything, they are told to say. Again Milley said this before the world even started, it was suppose to be a PR win for Ukraine against Russia, which it has been, because you going with it, when we knew that would not happen. Russia no doubt didn't think Ukraine's army would be this good but Russia as per normal, lose at first, then adjust, and then go into a attrition war, not a land grab war, which they win because they have more men.. Just ask Hitler, Russia took on the greatest army in the world in WW2, the Germans and won but they lost maybe 20 million people or more, truth is if the Germans had not attacked Russia more than likely they would have won WW2.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:31 am to Azkiger
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How much money have we sent to Ukraine already?
IDK but Mike Johnson just approved $800 million more.
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