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CAFE standards terminated, Hilux trucks back on the menu boys
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:55 pm to hawgfaninc
Explain this to me like I'm 5 years old.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:56 pm to hawgfaninc
Maybe next they can stop wasting taxpayer money on these dumb carbon capture projects
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:57 pm to hawgfaninc
Yeah. This is big. It’s a huge reason why new vehicles are more expensive but less reliable. Vehicle manufacturers were more worried about squeezing out .5 MPG out of a vehicle and didn’t give a shite about reliability.
The first thing I bet they change is putting the correct oil in vehicles and no longer 0w20 or the like.
The first thing I bet they change is putting the correct oil in vehicles and no longer 0w20 or the like.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:58 pm to hawgfaninc
Bring back true compact pickups!
Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:58 pm to Rouge
quote:
Explain this to me like I'm 5 years old.

Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:00 pm to Bread Orgeron
quote:that had more to do with crash safety standards than CAFE. CAFE is about fuel efficiency and emissions
Bring back true compact pickups!
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:01 pm to Bread Orgeron
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Bring back true compact pickups!
Unfortunately unless they can make a law outlawing any sort of CAFE coming back with the next admin in the next 20 years, auto manus aren't going to change their current direction.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:03 pm to cgrand
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CAFE is about fuel efficiency and emissions
Based on size. The bigger the vehicle the less mpg they had to achieve.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:03 pm to hawgfaninc
Nothing more American than a Toyota Hilux 
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:04 pm to hawgfaninc
damn. just got a 23 tacoma earlier this year and i do love it but that mf is big, esp coming from an oldass ranger.
wouldve been all over a hilux
wouldve been all over a hilux
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:07 pm to geauxjuice
Automakers wont change
They know next administration will just bring it back
They know next administration will just bring it back
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:07 pm to Turnblad85
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Unfortunately unless they can make a law outlawing any sort of CAFE coming back with the next admin in the next 20 years, auto manus aren't going to change their current direction.
Exactly. If Trump was to give Americans a legit chance to buy a reasonably priced Hilux, he'd need to lower tariffs on vehicles that aren't made in the US. Otherwise, they'll be available for a while, but not necessarily at a bargain price.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:09 pm to hawgfaninc
Great that we're axing Biden's CAFE updates, but we need to further and get rid of Obama's CAFE updates as well. Then do W. Bush and Clinton's. Knock all that out and then maybe we can get GM to re-release the 1998 Silverado Z71.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:10 pm to hawgfaninc
Bring back the big Tundra 5.7
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:11 pm to hawgfaninc
Give me a 70 series Land Cruiser with a diesel please…..
No care about anything else.
No care about anything else.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:12 pm to Rouge
The emissions and fuel efficiency of vehicles is not exactly a linear scale.
Right now, compact pickups would need to meet standards so restrictive, no one would buy them.
Right now, compact pickups would need to meet standards so restrictive, no one would buy them.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:20 pm to Rouge
Pres looked at survey numbers, leaned toward majority group. No individual principal or ideology.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Isn’t this something that should have been eliminated day one in office?
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:26 pm to BigBinBR
quote:Its also why new cars don’t have a spare tire in the trunk anymore. Reduce the weight = more fuel efficiency.
Vehicle manufacturers were more worried about squeezing out .5 MPG out of a vehicle and didn’t give a shite about reliability.
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