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I believe Coach O was what most made the LSU job attractive for our last two hires

Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:22 pm
One for the wrong reasons, one (I think) for the right.

I believe Kelly, in his mind, truly thought, hey if that Neanderthal can win a NC there, I should be able to basically sleepwalk my way to one and ride off into the sunset as a championship coach. Of course, his mindset got him sleepwalking his way out of a job and probably to college football coaching eternal ignominy.

I think Lane, on the other hand, has a certain genuine respect for O’s abilities, while still understanding his limitations. He knows O is not a big X’s and O’s kinda coach, but saw what he was able to do catching lightning in a bottle in 2019 with the right chemistry and the right coordinators (and of course the players) and sees this as his opportunity not to just do the same, but put it all together in a more sustained fashion and actually cement himself as a dynasty creating coach. I think he also recognizes that it will require HIS OWN unique skill set and genuine effort to get there and not something that will simply fall upon him because O did it.

I think Lane has the right sort of hubris for this, while Kelly obviously had the wrong sort.

Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:26 pm to
I think you're right on the money with all of this.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:26 pm to
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ignominy


Impressive vocabulary use...
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9670 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:27 pm to
I doubt Kelly took the job thinking “I’ll just be lazy and sleep walk through this”.

He just didn’t realize what he was getting into, and he was in over his head.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15235 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:29 pm to
Lane is a grinder. The only grinding BK did here was on recruits.
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:31 pm to
SPOT ON
Posted by LaFlamaBlanca1
Member since Sep 2024
143 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:33 pm to
Maybe BK was the dumba$$ the whole time. Ole coon arse coach o figured it out quite easily. BK wouldn't have had the success he had in the beginning without Os players
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109545 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:36 pm to
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Maybe BK was the dumba$$ the whole time. Ole coon arse coach o figured it out quite easily. BK wouldn't have had the success he had in the beginning without Os players


Oh absolutely. Kelly saw everything as a caricature so much, he thought he had to turn himself into one.
Posted by Dataman88
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:37 pm to
Just wanted to drop an upvote for the word ignominy. Nice one!
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9670 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Ole coon arse coach o figured it out quite easily.


Not really. He caught lightning in a bottle with Joe Burrow, and then the real Orgeron reared his ugly head in 2020 & 2021.

He imploded the program in record time.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 8:41 pm
Posted by LaFlamaBlanca1
Member since Sep 2024
143 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:42 pm to
Nah man. He built that team. Covid and blm derailed coach o. Ill admit that having side pieces didn't help
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9670 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Nah man. He built that team. Covid and blm derailed coach o. Ill admit that having side pieces didn't help


He got lucky, and he could never build a team like that again in 100 years.

2020 & 2021 Ed Orgeron are the real Ed Orgeron, just like 2005-2007 Ed Orgeron at Ole Miss.
Posted by KCSunshine
Lafayette LA
Member since Dec 2019
776 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:44 pm to
Let’s be honest. 2019 never happens without JoeCool and rest of studs we had
It was almost like they were automatic regardless of Coach O
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9670 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Let’s be honest. 2019 never happens without JoeCool and rest of studs we had It was almost like they were automatic regardless of Coach O


Exactly. Joe Brady and Dave Aranda were way more important than O as well.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32060 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:50 pm to
yeah and coach o would have done ok if Amanda would have stayed
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22808 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:58 pm to
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I doubt Kelly took the job thinking “I’ll just be lazy and sleep walk through this”.

He just didn’t realize what he was getting into, and he was in over his head.
Yeah, I think a decade at Notre Dame created some of that laziness. At South Bend, you don't have a schedule with 6+ teams that could beat you every season if you aren't on your game, not even when they started meshing with the ACC. You have 2-3 big games, then some you can coast through, then you get a bowl (playoff now) relatively fresh.

I imagine he was stunned to see the intensity the opponents brought even in wins like South Carolina last year, Auburn in 2022, etc. Not to mention games like Florida and A&M last year, Vandy and Ole Miss this year (hell Ole Miss and A&M every year), Tennessee a couple years back and so on. I bet he thought he'd have to deal with Bama, then whoever in Atlanta, and would scrimmage through the rest.

At the very least, Kiffin isn't operating under that assumption. He knows the SEC quite well, knows it is a grinder.
Posted by Dueces
Member since Jul 2009
1107 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:59 pm to
Ed O has been a part of 5 national championships off the top of my head. Could be wrong.

He’s better than a lot of people think.
Posted by LaFlamaBlanca1
Member since Sep 2024
143 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:04 pm to
True. But, who discovered brady?
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3107 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:05 pm to
Orgeron walked into a championship program with OC, DC and S&C coach in place and a team loaded with talent. It doesn’t get any easier than that. He could never build a program or even maintain one for a long period. In fact he couldn’t have even done what Kelly did in 2022.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19343 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:14 pm to
You can say it all in a couple of sentences. LSU doesn’t need hall of fame coaches (ex. like Alabama, Florida, etc.) to win championships.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 10:16 pm
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