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Remember when we heard in summer camp that the defense was way ahead of the offense?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:04 pm
After the Clemson game, I thought perhaps we had the best defensive roster since 2011. I was convinced that the offensive line was below average, but would still be serviceable.
As the season draws to a close, this defense did stack up to be a very talented and stout unit that was tough sledding for every opponent. I genuinely think something happened during the A&M game where BK lost the team and the players quit.
But the offensive line and scheme was in all actuality one of the worst I have seen, maybe ever at the college level. And that’s sad considering BK I thought was someone who got the most out of his QBs.
This was akin to the Bengals getting blasted for drafting skill guys but not building a dominant and deep OL. Joe Burrow, Garrett Nussmeier, or even Tom Brady would not have a good showing if week in and week out they are running for their lives, getting pancaked by defensive ends, and flat on their backs after only 3-5 seconds almost every down.
As the season draws to a close, this defense did stack up to be a very talented and stout unit that was tough sledding for every opponent. I genuinely think something happened during the A&M game where BK lost the team and the players quit.
But the offensive line and scheme was in all actuality one of the worst I have seen, maybe ever at the college level. And that’s sad considering BK I thought was someone who got the most out of his QBs.
This was akin to the Bengals getting blasted for drafting skill guys but not building a dominant and deep OL. Joe Burrow, Garrett Nussmeier, or even Tom Brady would not have a good showing if week in and week out they are running for their lives, getting pancaked by defensive ends, and flat on their backs after only 3-5 seconds almost every down.
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:08 pm to schwartzy
BK is not a terrible offensive guy but it’s clear he checked out and just left it up to Joe Sloan. Joe Sloan had no idea what the frick he was doing.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:11 am to schwartzy
quote:Yeah something happened - Baker got thoroughly outclassed after halftime. Again
As the season draws to a close, this defense did stack up to be a very talented and stout unit that was tough sledding for every opponent. I genuinely think something happened during the A&M game where BK lost the team and the players quit.
Our defense was not tough sledding for our losses against Ole Miss, Vandy, A&M, or Bama
The only top 50 scoring offense we beat was soon to be 0-8 Arkansas, and that 2-point victory was arguably only because they are the worst defense in the SEC by a mile
This defense failed really all of its significant tests. It only looked close to elite against trash. Middle of the pack in conference at best if you're being genuine
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 1:25 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:07 am to schwartzy
Fresh, hot take.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:28 am to RemouladeSawce
quote:Stupidity. With zero offense and bad special teams, LSU defense had to rely on itself for the majority of the time.
Our defense was not tough sledding for our losses against Ole Miss, Vandy, A&M, or Bama
The only top 50 scoring offense we beat was soon to be 0-8 Arkansas, and that 2-point victory was arguably only because they are the worst defense in the SEC by a mile
This team failed really all of its significant tests. Middle of the pack in conference at best if you're being genuine
LSU held Ole Miss to 24 points, only ONE other team held them under 30 points.
LSU held Bama to its 3rd lowest point totals all year despite only scoring 9 points itself.
LSU was literally without 2 of the 3 players we needed the most vs Vandy. We win the game if Whit Weeks and Bernard Gooden play that game. At that point Vandy was heavily relying on their TEs and RBs for their passing game. Vandy's top 3 WRs account for 1490 yards and 15 TDs. They had 3 catches for 46 yards COMBINED vs LSU.
I think LSU collapsed in the 2nd half vs TAMU. I have no idea WTF that was.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:38 am to Datbayoubengal
quote:It did have to rely on itself. And it was not up to par
Stupidity. With zero offense and bad special teams, LSU defense had to rely on itself for the majority of the time.
Leading with Ole Miss is really stupid. If not for 100 yards of penalties they beat us by 3 scores. That’s like Auburn hanging their hat on being closest to LSU in 2019 when anyone watching that game knows that their defense got their arse handed to them everywhere but the scoreboard
Bama hasn’t been a great offense all year
It’s cute that we held Vandy receivers like that. If only we didn’t give up almost 250 on the ground. It’s almost like that staff knew we couldn’t stop a mobile QB and built a game plan around it and succeeded
TAMU needs no introduction. 2nd straight year completely embarrassed in the 2nd half. This time with no surprises, and at home
A horrible offense on the other side doesn’t make a mediocre defense any less mediocre
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 1:45 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:32 am to schwartzy
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I genuinely think something happened during the A&M game where BK lost the team and the players quit.
While a agree with most of what you said, I have reason to doubt something happened during the A&M game itself to lead to the 2nd half meltdown other than A&M just choosing to impose their will.
We were up 4 at half because we had 2 picks and blocked punt I think? I told the guys I was with at the game this first drive of the 2nd half will tell me how this game will end. And they came out and ran it down our throats. We really didn’t have any answer for them physically in the 2nd half, and I don’t think it’s because BK lost them in that game, we were just beaten up.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:18 am to caliegeaux
Our offense doesn't do anything consistently good. We have utterly failed to push the ball down the field through the air. Defenses not having to account for that gives them a huge advantage.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:46 am to TBoy@LSU
We moved the ball well enough against Vandy, but the D couldn’t stop anything that game. And as I mentioned the 1st half of Ags we played somewhat complimentary football. All other games, even wins, the offense has been shite and provided little to no relief for the D, but to not lay blame on the D for some massive struggles would be silly. I also know that Reliford going out, Gooden missing 1-2 as well as weeks right in the heart of “mobile qb” row of our schedule definitely didn’t help either. But injuries are part of the game.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 7:04 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:18 am to RemouladeSawce
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Our defense was not tough sledding for our losses against Ole Miss, Vandy, A&M, or Bama
Against ole Miss and bama they certainly were tough enough to win
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:25 am to caliegeaux
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I don’t think it’s because BK lost them in that game, we were just beaten up.
2nd half of a college football game is the actual game. I barely watch 1st half of games anymore.
So many times this happens in college - teams look kinda even, score is kinda close….2nd half, the better team comes out and dominates. Usually the team with more depth and talent.
That’s what A&M did - for the second time.
It’s embarrassing - I hate BK for this.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:43 am to schwartzy
Against top 10 opponents we struggled to get pressure on the QB’s, and allowed running quarterbacks to hurt us. Our secondary was very good overall. Very few complaints with them. LB’s were up and down. We clearly fell off when Whit got injured. The Doucet breakdown of the defense was really interesting to see. I will be more than happy to keep most of the Defensive coaching staff in tact.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:47 am to RemouladeSawce
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Our defense was not tough sledding for our losses against Ole Miss, Vandy, A&M, or Bama
We held bama to 20 points and with just an average offense we could have won that game.
And the Ole Miss game
And the Vandy game
Even at their worst, the defense was good enough to win every game but aTm but for the worst offense I can remember
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:03 pm to schwartzy
I would think losing an all-universe player and the teams defensive leader for half the season might have played a part.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:36 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I think LSU collapsed in the 2nd half vs TAMU. I have no idea WTF that was.
That was A&M doing what they should have done all game, which is run the ball straight up our arse.
If they hadn't gotten cute in the first half by letting Reed throw picks in the red zone, the first half would have been similar.
In all my years of watching LSU, I have never seen a "fool's gold" situation as bad as us leading at halftime of that game. That house of cards crashed hard after halftime.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:00 pm to schwartzy
There was no offense
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:02 pm to RemouladeSawce
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Yeah something happened - Baker got thoroughly outclassed after halftime. Again
The players quit after the 14-0 bang-bang to start the second half against A&M. Some of the effort in the second half was appalling.
And, yeah, Joe Sloan was bad, but Brad Davis is the worst offensive line coach LSU has had in my lifetime, which goes back to Charlie Mac days.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:38 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
BK has fooled everyone that he wasn't a fraud of a coach. BK was 100% dependent on his assts, and if he was able to hire talented ones, his teams were good. When he didn't his teams were not good. He didn't know how to fix anything if the assts got it wrong. He just kept saying the team had to execute better.....always the sign that the HC has no clue.
He made terrible hires for offense this year at LSU, maybe because he just didn't care.....there is no way he could think, other than just hope it worked out, that LSU. would be a good offensive team. When it became obvious the O coaches had no idea how to fix/make changes in the offense at all, BK didn't know what to do either. He just kept blaming the players and making excuses to anyone that asked a serious question. BK has no idea how to fix a major problem and, imo, he just stopped even trying. I don't think he is disappointed in being relieved of his HC duties at LSU, except for whatever desire he has to protect his fake legacy.
He made terrible hires for offense this year at LSU, maybe because he just didn't care.....there is no way he could think, other than just hope it worked out, that LSU. would be a good offensive team. When it became obvious the O coaches had no idea how to fix/make changes in the offense at all, BK didn't know what to do either. He just kept blaming the players and making excuses to anyone that asked a serious question. BK has no idea how to fix a major problem and, imo, he just stopped even trying. I don't think he is disappointed in being relieved of his HC duties at LSU, except for whatever desire he has to protect his fake legacy.
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