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Trump’s wing it and troll economic plan: There is no plan.

Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:05 pm
Right now, Trump’s approach to the economy is feeling more reactive than strategic. The current polls are showing 3/4 of all voters view the economy negatively and approval of Trump’s economic handling is now at a record low even among you who have been his core supporters. The costs for groceries, housing, healthcare, and utilities are still rising and are hitting everyone hard. As this goes on, we can only blame the last administration for so long. They certainly fricked it up. That has never been in doubt. But when are we going to see some change?

Instead of pushing a clear and long-term economic plan, Trump seems more effective at political posturing. He's becoming good now at trolling and “owning” Americans instead of just libs and overseas adversaries. That is, those of us who voted for him -- even than at delivering economic wins especially compared to economic rivals like China, the UK or Western Europe. This is becoming more evident because even Republicans acknowledge the economic pain and are feeling left behind. On economics, I honestly expected more.

What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden. While I would argue that Democrats wouldn’t have done any better (and no, they wouldn't have), this excuse is now wearing thin as inflation and costs keep rising. More of Trump’s own supporters are starting to feel like they never really belonged in the “Make America Great Again” vision because it’s not clear who his economic policies actually benefit. Hell, do they benefit the middle class? No, it doesn't seem like it. The Rich even? Not really. Doesn't seem like anyone who works hard is benefiting.

At this point, it’s fair to ask: which part of America is Trump really trying to make great again? All of this is starting to show that Trump does not have a coherent vision except to promote Trump.

I'm hopeful in the next election that Rubio or Vance can win and get everything in working order again but if this continues (and there's no indication that it won't), we probably won't get that chance in 2028 and yet another Democrat will get elected and puts us around $50-60T in debt and we're screwed at that point.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
52253 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden. While I would argue that Democrats wouldn’t have done any better (and no, they wouldn't have)

The preferred anti-Trump talking point has arisen
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28103 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:07 pm to
How about addressing the concerns maybe? I know you won't though.
Posted by Kashmir
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92686 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:09 pm to
You ppl say this yet restaurants are packed. Disney is packed. Nightclubs packed. Vegas packed. NyC packed. Miami packrd

Vacations packed. I mean maybe it sucks in if you live in a tent in Alasaka like a certain poster but i just dont see the disaster the panicans talk about

Maybe all these ppl with 2% mortgages rates with 500k in equity should payoff all their debt and take the 5% mortgage instead of clinging to their brag rate
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85358 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:09 pm to
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What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden.


By what measures?

Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28969 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden. While I would argue that Democrats wouldn’t have done any better (and no, they wouldn't have), this excuse is now wearing thin as inflation and costs keep rising. More of Trump’s own supporters are starting to feel like they never really belonged in the “Make America Great Again” vision because it’s not clear who his economic policies actually benefit. Hell, do they benefit the middle class? No, it doesn't seem like it. The Rich even? Not really. Doesn't seem like anyone who works hard is benefiting.


But how do you undo it? COVID happened and the market adjusted fricking HARD. Items in my field have increased 20% bare minimum with quite a few being in the 35-40% range. This is a very steady field, but it isn't critical and we're already seeing a substantial amount of resistance to pricing.

During COVID supply got limited so prices raised in response. That's all fine and good until you're still pushing the same product 4-5 years later at a price 40% higher. Did everything go up just because everyone felt like it should/woudl?
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28103 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:10 pm to
Should should should.

But still looking for substance and an actual vision or solid road map put out there for everyone to follow.

Trump's cumgurglers never have an answer and can only demagogue.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
70 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:11 pm to
I was told Trump couldn’t win. He won the popular vote. Stop listening to pundits who likely poll the same doom and gloom weirdos.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
2915 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:11 pm to
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Trump’s approach to the economy is feeling more reactive than strategic.

100%
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28103 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

By what measures?



It's easy to tell you didn't read it but im serious about this and so am willing to put it back out here again for you:

quote:

The costs for groceries, housing, healthcare, and utilities are still rising and are hitting everyone hard.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88459 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:12 pm to
I mean, I’m willing to give him more time on it.

I know that ain’t winning any elections, but that’s just how it works. It’s not always going to immediately get rolling.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1846 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:12 pm to
Fuel and groceries have gone down a bit in my area. The company I work for also just set sales records last month.

Point being, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

What's your agenda?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85358 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden.


Inflation is at 2.4%


At its peak under Biden it was 9%.

You haven’t given any data to support your obvious bullshite.


Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13019 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:13 pm to
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How about addressing the concerns maybe? I know you won't though.


From the beginning of this admin47 they have been clear there would be some short term pain.

We are 10 months in- I'm going to wait a little longer before pulling my hair out.

I also realize that despite "big talk" there is only so much Trump can do unilaterally. That goes for any president and campaign promises vs deliveries.

Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28103 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:13 pm to
Appreciate you making a point which the usual Trump ball swallowers can't seem to do.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141081 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden.


Unless you are living paycheck to paycheck and on Obama Care this is patently false.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28103 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:14 pm to
You can go on any news network and read this shite even the conservative ones but you're probably be ... oh that's coming from MSM so ... why give you a link?
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
973 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:15 pm to
Reading this well thought out post knowing it was going to be heavily downvoted because you were slightly critical of Trump. Never change, retards.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141081 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:15 pm to
What was Biden’s GDP?

What is the current GDP?
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