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So many of you want us to draft OL and DL in the 1st Round, and its A BAD IDEA.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:02 am
Lets go all the way back to 2016. Yall remember our 1st round pick? Thats right, Sheldon Rankins. Sort of a bust for us.
Since 2016, we've had 10 first round draft picks. How many of those were OL or DL? 8. Our 2 non DL/OL? Marshon Lattimore, and Olave.
So out of 9 OL/DL drafted since 2016, including Rankins, how many of these guys have actually worked out?
Rankins (Bust)
Ramczyk (Great)
Davenport (BUST)
Ruiz (MEH)
Peyton Turner (BUST)
Penning (BUST)
Bresse (Controversial but not great)
Fuaga (Looked okay)
Banks (Good)
Maybe its time to try something different? Because this recipe isnt looking to great.
Since 2016, we've had 10 first round draft picks. How many of those were OL or DL? 8. Our 2 non DL/OL? Marshon Lattimore, and Olave.
So out of 9 OL/DL drafted since 2016, including Rankins, how many of these guys have actually worked out?
Rankins (Bust)
Ramczyk (Great)
Davenport (BUST)
Ruiz (MEH)
Peyton Turner (BUST)
Penning (BUST)
Bresse (Controversial but not great)
Fuaga (Looked okay)
Banks (Good)
Maybe its time to try something different? Because this recipe isnt looking to great.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:11 am to BadatBourre
Did you stop at 2016 because if you went back to 2015 then you would have to include Stephone Anthony as one of the non DL/OL?
Also, how is Ruiz not considered a bust?
Also, how is Ruiz not considered a bust?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:14 am to BadatBourre
That is an implication on Loomis (duh) not drafting big uglies early
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:16 am to BadatBourre
The downfall began when we passed on Tunsil for Rankins.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:20 am to BadatBourre
Ruiz was more of a bust than Rankins.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:25 am to Weekend Warrior79
Because if I go back any further, Id also have to include Peat who was also a bust.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:27 am to Townedrunkard
rankins and our DL were looking nasty at one point, that achilles injury sucked. I can't fault that pick too much
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:31 am to TeamCKennedy
What a bad take. Rankins was with us for 5 years and had 17.5 sacks, 116 tackles, and 25 TFLs.
Do you really think those are good numbers?
Do you really think those are good numbers?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:42 am to BadatBourre
So if you suggest not picking linemen early because the people making the decisions cannot choose the best talent out of the top of the talent pool, How exactly do you suggest they improve the giant holes on the offense and defensive lines?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:51 am to Snipe
I agree, if leadership can’t pick the best linemen available in round 1, you think they can pick a good one in round 5?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:51 am to BadatBourre
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Do you really think those are good numbers?
for a 3-tech leading up into his achilles injury? absolutely was good for a DT - 14 sacks in 3 years. That injury derailed his career and has never looked close to that version
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:25 pm to BadatBourre
Ruiz ranks as the 86th guard in the NFL.
Their are only 64 starting garden in the league.
He is bad and always has been bad.
Rankins was average to above average at times.
Their are only 64 starting garden in the league.
He is bad and always has been bad.
Rankins was average to above average at times.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:57 pm to BadatBourre
We want that Lb/ De who plays for
Ohio State.
Best and most versatile Defensive Player in the entire Draft !!!
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:02 pm to BadatBourre
Just because we have sucked at drafting lineman doesn't mean we don't have a huge need and also doesn't mean you quit trying. Hopefully the odds are in our favor to succeed at these picks eventually
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:41 pm to TigerSaurus
quote:
We want that Lb/ De who plays for
Ohio State.
Arvell Reese……..is an absolute STUD
Ross Jackson is a big fan of his as well in the 1st
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:04 pm to infantry1026
quote:
Arvell Reese……..is an absolute STUD Ross Jackson is a big fan of his as well in the 1st
Real life Vontae Mack
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:27 pm to BadatBourre
There are so many areas where we need to get better and younger. All my buddies love doing mock drafts and I applaud them. However, It’s impossible to really dig into any of this until: Saints draft position is finalized and FA period comes & goes. There’s still quite a bit of season left.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:00 am to BadatBourre
This conversation is dumb because you have a fundamental lack of understanding of what a bust is. In your mind a player is a bust if he's not an all-star. There are levels between bust and all-star.
You cite Sheldon Rankins and Peat as busts. Both players were starters for much of their careers; rotational players at times. Neither were top 10 picks yet enjoyed long careers in the NFL. Peat is in his 11th season and is a x3 Pro-Bowler. Rankins is in his 10th season and still on an active roster, lasting three times longer than the average defensive lineman in the NFL.
Busts are players top 5 overall, supposedly can't miss prospects that end up lasting 1-3 years, then can't crack an NFL roster.
You cite Sheldon Rankins and Peat as busts. Both players were starters for much of their careers; rotational players at times. Neither were top 10 picks yet enjoyed long careers in the NFL. Peat is in his 11th season and is a x3 Pro-Bowler. Rankins is in his 10th season and still on an active roster, lasting three times longer than the average defensive lineman in the NFL.
Busts are players top 5 overall, supposedly can't miss prospects that end up lasting 1-3 years, then can't crack an NFL roster.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:19 pm to BadatBourre
All this proves is the Saints Scouting Dept doesn’t know their Azz from a Hole In The Ground when it comes to drafting linemen either OL or DL !!
We need a NEW Scouting Dept !!!
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:24 am to BadatBourre
I'd take issue with Brussels. I think as a nose guard/ DT he has played quite well.
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