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Watching the President's speech in Armageddon...

Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:45 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:45 am
And it struck me how writing like this hardly exists in mainstream summer blockbusters anymore. The same thing for Bill Pullman's speech in Independence Day. It blows my mind how cheesy action films from the 90s have become examples of how Hollywood should do it here in the 2020s.

Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1081 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:09 am to
That’s because they had talented straight WASPs handling business back then.

Say what you will about ole Handy’s Harvey, he was castle mostly untalented women but they were all attractive. Now they don’t hire any talented women and they look like the old dog poo mixed with the new dog poo.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41571 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:19 am to
Somewhere in the mid to late 90s a switch was flipped and people just started doing less and less. We got dumber and expected more free stuff for less work. Was it CERN? I don’t know, but change my mind.
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
408 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:25 am to
Armageddon is a perfect blockbuster in every sense of the word.
My god that’s an enjoyable as all heck movie.
You laugh, you cry with every other emotion mixed in!
Back when Hollywood wasn’t afraid of “toxic masculinity”.
I’d love for movie like this to make a comeback.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8499 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:25 am to
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Armageddon.


Will watch anytime it is on no matter where it is at in the movie. No shame at all.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73817 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:40 am to
Stanley Anderson was a great movie President

Airstrike approved
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5409 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:41 am to
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That’s because they had talented straight WASPs handling business back then.


Yea. Hollywood famously had hetero WASPs running things in its heyday.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73817 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:54 am to
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straight WASPs handling business back then


quote:

Harvey Weinstein


hmm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37834 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:57 am to
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That’s because they had talented straight WASPs handling business back then.
You know that Armageddon writer Shane Salerno is gay, right?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8010 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:04 am to
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Yea. Hollywood famously had hetero WASPs running things in its heyday.

lol
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1081 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:07 am to
Michael Bay ain’t queer is what I know.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73817 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:20 am to
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Michael Bay ain’t queer is what I know.


Who cares?

Roland Emmerich is a gay German and made Stargate, Independence Day, The Patriot

Some badass American movies
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10657 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:22 am to
Armageddon was cringy AF when it released and it hasn't gotten any better.

When I think of bad movies, it's one of the first that come to mind.

You're probably not wrong about modern day movies....but I would NOT hold up this pile of shite as an example.

Go with something like The Fugitive.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24893 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:54 am to
You can tell when writers stopped being family men and started being family less women and subversive fruitcakes
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9462 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:37 pm to
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I’d love for movie like this to make a comeback.


After the success of Top Gun, I had the highest of hopes for Twister. After watching it at home, I had never been happier that I saved the cost of 2 movie tickets. It was SO EPICALLY BAD. The original movie is a remote drop movie for me.

Don't ruin Armageddon, too
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73019 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:49 pm to
The president's speech in ID4 is easily the top speech of all time. Goosebumps. For such a silly movie its perfect.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69149 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:57 pm to
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You're probably not wrong about modern day movies....but I would NOT hold up this pile of shite as an example.

Go with something like The Fugitive.


The Fugitive was nominated for Best Picture the year it came out so that's not a fair example. I'm talking about the quality of generic summer action films from 30 years ago compared to the quality of the ones that are released today.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5259 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:48 pm to
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After the success of Top Gun, I had the highest of hopes for Twister. After watching it at home, I had never been happier that I saved the cost of 2 movie tickets. It was SO EPICALLY BAD. The original movie is a remote drop movie for me.


I agree with you in the original but I thought they did a great job with Twisters and I went in with super low expectations. To each his own I guess.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463919 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:03 pm to
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You can tell when writers stopped being family men


It's a Michael Bay movie. He's one of the first mainstream directors to make dating pornstars normalized.

He has no children
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24893 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:10 pm to
Michael Bay did not write Armageddon.
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