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The Truth Hurts: H1b Visas do not take jobs away from Americans
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:00 pm
I know it’s tempting to say, “THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!”, but that’s not how H1b visas work.
by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas. In addition, they are required to pay the prevailing wage (aka no undercutting native workers). do some companies violate the law? sure, but they are prosecuted. if the law is enforced, that does not become a problem.
there have been studies on whether these visas have affects on native employment. the conclusion is that these are supplemental - it does not negatively effect native employment. In fact, there are signs of native employment growth due to the innovation caused by these workers.
I’d love to not need H1b visas at all. But unfortunately we’re not there as a country yet. Once again, I urge people to look at the facts instead of making baseless claims about a topic they don’t know about.
EDIT: I was unaware of how prevalent fraud and abuse is within the H1B visa program. I was researching the program and going off the book, which I should have known better. Thanks for all the first-hand insights.
by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas. In addition, they are required to pay the prevailing wage (aka no undercutting native workers). do some companies violate the law? sure, but they are prosecuted. if the law is enforced, that does not become a problem.
there have been studies on whether these visas have affects on native employment. the conclusion is that these are supplemental - it does not negatively effect native employment. In fact, there are signs of native employment growth due to the innovation caused by these workers.
I’d love to not need H1b visas at all. But unfortunately we’re not there as a country yet. Once again, I urge people to look at the facts instead of making baseless claims about a topic they don’t know about.
EDIT: I was unaware of how prevalent fraud and abuse is within the H1B visa program. I was researching the program and going off the book, which I should have known better. Thanks for all the first-hand insights.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:11 pm
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:02 pm to geauxEdO
Have you ever worked with a bunch of Indians?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:02 pm to geauxEdO
I'll trust the people working (or trying to get a job) in the tech sector. Thanks.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:03 pm to patnuh
yes, i’m surrounded by them at work. I also don’t know of any white software engineers struggling to find a job.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:03 pm to geauxEdO
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H1b Visas
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:03 pm to geauxEdO
that is just a flat out lie.
How long have you worked in the IT Industry? I’m going on 18 years.
How long have you worked in the IT Industry? I’m going on 18 years.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm to geauxEdO
Stopped reading at, "By law."
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm to geauxEdO
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by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas.
Oh? By law?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm to geauxEdO
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The Truth Hurts: H1b Visas do not take jobs away from Americans
You're correct as to how theyre supposed to work.
But the reality is quite obviously and objectively proven to be quite different.
Its been abused for decades but has taken off over the last 5-10 years as a means of lowering labor costs and increasing the control tech companies have over their employees.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm to geauxEdO
It is truly sickening to see some Americans sell out the future of this nation to invaders from shithole countries just to make a few bucks.
Demographics is Destiny
Demographics is Destiny
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:06 pm to geauxEdO
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by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas
A few things:
It has been proven that some companies do their best to hide the job postings so they can say no American applied. There is a website that is now finding these postings and consolidating them for Americans to view. Before that, the postings were hard to find purposely.
HR can easily interview a ton of Americans, then say they weren't qualified so we need a Jeet that will coincidentally work for less money
Before the $100K minimum came from the Trump admin, why were companies using H1Bs to get freaking secretaries? Are Americans not skilled enough to get coffee and answer phones or is it because it was cheaper for the company?
Website lets Americans apply to the market surveys for unlisted H1B-earmarked job openings
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:06 pm to geauxEdO
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by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas
they've been circumventing this by posting the jobs in invisible text online/ on very obscure job boards/publications. a fed up tech worker built an app that scraped all of these job postings and aggregated them to where US citizens could see them and apply and all the indians lost their minds
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:08 pm to geauxEdO
frick off. I know several people IRL who were laid off and trained their H1B Indian replacement.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:10 pm to Klark Kent
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that is just a flat out lie.
How long have you worked in the IT Industry? I’m going on 18 years.
The OP has made more posts today defending H1Bs than he has averaged a year for the past 8 years
He might be a jeet defending being here
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:10 pm to geauxEdO
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:12 pm to geauxEdO
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k. I also don’t know of any white software engineers struggling to find a job
I do. Particular older employees, but that is beside the point. First, employers game the system and ask for qualifications that aren’t essential qualifications of the jobs to manufacture this need for foreign employees. (No, we weren’t able to find an employee with 20 years of experience for an entry level job.) Second, the mass influx of the cheap labor depresses the salary of those that are employed and acts as a negative incentive toward training programs and education. An average wage ( not prevailing bc we aren’t just dealing with government jobs) is thus lower in a worldwide labor market then what would be a US market
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:15 pm to geauxEdO
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companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas.
Want to know how I know you're full of shite? Because I know for a fact that two of the largest retailers in DIY Home Improvement industry that have teams of lawyers to guide their HR departments on how to recruit H1B legally as a first hiring measure for their dwindling state-side IT shops.
Some tricks of the trade:
Post the jobs on the most unviewed national trade journal as possible. As long as the job is posted in a national published media, it satisfies the requirement of "recruit US citizens first".
Post the jobs as "internships, JR-this, or Trainee-that" so that few US Citizen applicants will apply or seriously consider the job. H1B candidates will be told, "yes, after a trial period your pay will increase xyz." Very rarely will the US prospective employee be told about a pay increase.
Hire new employees in a "Group" or "Class" -- have them all go through orientation together. A group of 12 - 15 employees with 2 US employees and 10-13 H1B's is easily defended as law-abiding. Never mind the 2 US employees are rarely retained after trial period.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:16 pm to geauxEdO
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by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas. In addition, they are required to pay the prevailing wage (aka no undercutting native workers). do some companies violate the law? sure, but they are prosecuted. if the law is enforced, that does not become a problem.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:17 pm to geauxEdO
So if there are jobs in the US and someone with an H1b visa gets that job over a US citizen, how is that not taking a job away?
The mental gymnastics to say it doesn’t take jobs away from Americans is impressively stupid. There’s a reason Canada of all places stopped taking Indian immigrants
The mental gymnastics to say it doesn’t take jobs away from Americans is impressively stupid. There’s a reason Canada of all places stopped taking Indian immigrants
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:17 pm to geauxEdO
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by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas. In addition, they are required to pay the prevailing wage (aka no undercutting native workers). do some companies violate the law? sure, but they are prosecuted. if the law is enforced, that does not become a problem.
This is absolute bullshite.
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