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Interesting...The latest guest of Financial Audit is....Gretchen Whitmer?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:05 pm
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The video features an in-depth financial audit of the state of Michigan with Governor Gretchen Whitmer. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, including Michigan's economy, state spending, debt, taxation, and national policy issues.
Here is a detailed summary of the various talking points from the video:
Michigan's Economy and Priorities
North Star Goal: The Governor states that Michigan's primary focus, or "north star," is ensuring anyone can come to the state to build the life they want, which involves investing in people, skills for advanced manufacturing, and creating desirable places to live [03:39].
Tariffs and Trade: Governor Whitmer identifies the "tariff chaos" as a major concern impacting Michigan's agriculture and advanced manufacturing, especially the auto industry [05:01]. She advocates for using tariffs "like a scalpel not a sledgehammer" and acknowledges the industry's reliance on a built-in trade relationship with Canada [06:53].
Business Incentives (EVs): The discussion addresses controversial state incentive spending, such as the reduction of the Blue Oval Battery Park package [09:33]. The Governor defends aggressive investment in EV battery plants, explaining they are crucial for Michigan to maintain long-term dominance in mobility and auto research and development [01:11:32].
Economic Outlook: Caleb notes that 87% of Michigan CEOs expect a weaker state economy over the next decade due to national unpredictability [01:12:17].
State Finances and Debt
Debt Management: Michigan's outstanding debt was $6.92 billion at the end of 2024, a 4.2% reduction year-over-year [01:13:46]. The Governor highlights that the state is required to run a balanced budget and has secured an upgrade in its bond rating [01:14:54].
Net Position Concern: A concern is raised that the state's overall net position (assets minus commitments) remains a negative $1.3 billion [01:16:46].
Budgetary Uncertainty: The Governor attributes some financial instability to the unpredictability of federal funding and the risk of government shutdowns [01:18:37].
Spending Breakdown: Health and Human Services accounts for the largest share of spending at 44% ($35.57 billion) [01:19:16].
Welfare and Pensions
Food Assistance Incentives: The host questions whether welfare systems, like food assistance, might be structured in a way that discourages people from working more hours [01:19:45]. The Governor acknowledges this as a potential flaw, but says Michigan operates under the same federal rules as other states [01:20:09].
Pension Underfunding: A significant problem is the underfunded state pension system, which has a funding ratio of 74.83% and an unfunded liability of about $27 billion [01:21:04]. This amount is noted as five times the annual K-12 School Aid Fund contribution [01:22:56].
Long-Term Solution: Governor Whitmer explains that the state is phasing out the pension system for new public employees, which will ultimately remove the system as a long-term fiscal problem [01:27:17].
Revenue, Taxes, and Spending
'Sin Taxes' for Schools: The School Aid Fund is backed by marijuana taxes ($270 million) and sports betting/iGaming revenue [01:29:30]. The Governor notes that while "sin taxes" are politically easy to pass, the majority of school funding comes from the sales tax [01:32:00].
Income Tax Rate: The personal income tax rate was legally returned to 4.25% from 4.05% after a court ruling [01:35:32]. The Governor supported following the law and would require a clear plan for funding before agreeing to any future tax cuts [01:35:46].
Working Families Tax Credit: The state increased its match of the federal Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), now called the Working Families Tax Credit, from 6% to 30%, to incentivize full-time work and provide tax relief [01:38:40].
EV Fees: The $160 annual fee for Electric Vehicles (EVs) to replace lost gas tax revenue is discussed, which the Governor defends as a fair registration fee since EVs use the roads [01:41:36].
Pork Spending: Caleb details nearly $1 billion in state earmarks (pork spending), including funds for infrastructure, community projects (like the Detroit Zoo and Special Olympics), and grants [01:44:03]. The Governor notes she is working with the legislature to implement front-end transparency on these projects [01:46:57].
Policy and National Issues
Personal Finance Education: A significant policy win discussed is the new requirement for a mandatory personal finance class for high school graduation, which the Governor believes is vital for preparing students to manage their lives and finances [01:54:20].
Tesla Direct Sales Law: The video mentions that state law prevents Tesla from being a licensed dealer or owning a service center in Michigan, a restriction Caleb criticizes [01:56:51].
Political Extremism: The Governor calls the rise of political extremism "really dangerous" and stresses the need for leaders with a platform to speak out against anger and violence, regardless of its origin [01:10:46].
Conclusion: The host concludes by giving the state of Michigan a "Hammer Financial Score" of a six or a seven out of 10 [01:11:45].
Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms. This may be the first Presidential candidate to go on a legit, unscripted interview on a podcast/OCC platform.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This may be the first Presidential candidate to go on a legit, unscripted interview on a podcast/OCC platform.
You leftist lie with such ease
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:25 pm to Bourre
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You leftist lie with such ease
Which DEM Presidential candidate has gone on a legit, unscripted interview on a platform like this?
Did the Allin guys get Newsome or something?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
The first? Have you been fricking asleep? Trump is the one that made presidential candidates going on podcasts “cool”.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:29 pm to RobertFootball
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The first? Have you been fricking asleep? Trump is the one that made presidential candidates going on podcasts “cool”.
Is English not your first language?
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms.
You think Trump is a DEM?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
You didn’t specify “dem presidential candidate” in your initial post that I responded too, did you? You just said presidential candidate
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:31 pm to Bourre
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You didn’t specify “dem presidential candidate” in your initial post
Did my initial post not include this as the first sentence?
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:34 pm to Bourre
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You didn’t specify “dem presidential candidate” in your initial post that I responded too, did you?
Yes, he did.
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms.
There's been no edits and it's easy enough to just scroll up and see it for yourself.
I can see how the comment about Presidential candidates confuses things though. Combined, I took the two statements as meaning "potential Dem candidates for the 2028 Presidential election".
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bruh, ain't no one gots time for readin dat
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'll have to watch it just to see if Caleb is the same piece of shite that he is with all of his other guests. That dude stopped caring about actually trying to help people a long time ago.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:43 pm to Bard
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Combined, I took the two statements as meaning "potential Dem candidates for the 2028 Presidential election".
Correct.
There have been several smaller fish Democrats doing online content platforms, but no legit Presidential candidate tier pols, that I can think of.
It seems clear this is a strategy for her eventual 2028 run. She's ahead of hte pack, so to speak.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
If the claim was “first Democrat,” you’d have written that. There’s no shame in just saying “fair point” instead of trying to pivot / shift the goal post.
You don’t have to be a douche with every post. Just sayin’
You don’t have to be a douche with every post. Just sayin’
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
15 minutes in and Caleb goes from talking about the state's bond rating to mentioning he is "gooning" over going over spending and debt with a governor and then they discuss "gooning".
From there he goes into the state's ongoing debt situation.
Wasn't really expecting that sort of conversational whiplash.
Wasn't really expecting that sort of conversational whiplash.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:01 pm to Klark Kent
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If the claim was “first Democrat,” you’d have written that.
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
double down on it, that’s fine.
To your point: yes, this is the first Democrat politician to do a long-form interview like this. Most of them chase soundbites and pre-packaged clips for social media (see Kamala Harris’ entire 2024 campaign).
That said, let’s not pretend this was a totally open forum. The conversation was clearly scoped around her Michigan economic plan, and the interviewer didn’t have free rein to dig into anything outside that lane. So again, you’re being a bit disingenuous.
Still, credit where it’s due… Gavin or Kamala or former President Autopen would never get within a mile of this format. Hillary might have, but there would’ve been strict parameters and it would have been done by a trusted Corporate Media Partner (ABC, CBS, etc)
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms. This may be the first Presidential candidate to go on a legit, unscripted interview on a podcast/OCC platform.
To your point: yes, this is the first Democrat politician to do a long-form interview like this. Most of them chase soundbites and pre-packaged clips for social media (see Kamala Harris’ entire 2024 campaign).
That said, let’s not pretend this was a totally open forum. The conversation was clearly scoped around her Michigan economic plan, and the interviewer didn’t have free rein to dig into anything outside that lane. So again, you’re being a bit disingenuous.
Still, credit where it’s due… Gavin or Kamala or former President Autopen would never get within a mile of this format. Hillary might have, but there would’ve been strict parameters and it would have been done by a trusted Corporate Media Partner (ABC, CBS, etc)
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
bullshite! Your post was
That first sentence in no way limits the subject of the next sentence to DEM Presidential candidates.
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Interesting development in DEM pols going on major online platforms. This may be the first Presidential candidate to go on a legit, unscripted interview on a podcast/OCC platform.
That first sentence in no way limits the subject of the next sentence to DEM Presidential candidates.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This may be the first Presidential candidate to go on a legit, unscripted interview on a podcast/OCC platform.
are you really this fricking stupid?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
She will be running for POTUS soon.
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