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JD Vance explains the Thomas Massie issue.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:03 am
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:06 am to GumboPot
Watching the MAGA movement beat out Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism is so depressing.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:10 am to GumboPot
Massie wants to be a Kardashian-type celebrity.
he purposely votes the way he does for that sole reason.
he purposely votes the way he does for that sole reason.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:21 am to GumboPot
JD has gotten so damned good at these kinds of forums. This wasn't anywhere near his best answer and yet hes still so gratifying to listen to because he doesn't bullshite. He keeps it real like Trump and Elon.
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 12:25 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:41 am to GumboPot
The nail that sticks out, gets the hammer.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:47 am to GumboPot
frick team sport politics.
Massie is a conservative who has conservative views. He doesn't have the wrong view on issues, the republican party does because they constantly abandon conservative values due to all the neocon socialists.
Here's Jon Stewart and Bernie Sanders praising Trump from implementing socialist ideas Bernie has been trying to get the democrats to pass.
They want congressmen to be an extension of the President, not the voice of the people.
Besides, the real reason they want him gone is because he's not controlled by the AIPAC/Israel lobby.
Massie is a conservative who has conservative views. He doesn't have the wrong view on issues, the republican party does because they constantly abandon conservative values due to all the neocon socialists.
Here's Jon Stewart and Bernie Sanders praising Trump from implementing socialist ideas Bernie has been trying to get the democrats to pass.
They want congressmen to be an extension of the President, not the voice of the people.
Besides, the real reason they want him gone is because he's not controlled by the AIPAC/Israel lobby.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:50 am to Victor R Franko
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The nail that sticks out, gets the hammer.
Yes, how dare people not conform to the establishment.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:06 am to Bamanjo
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Watching the MAGA movement beat out Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism is so depressing.
Thomas Massie's brand is brand Thomas Massie.
Massie is supposed to be a man of integrity, a man who exposes limited government, term limits.
Speaking of term limits, Thomas Massie has been a long-time proponent of limiting congressional terms, supporting mandated limits of six to eight years for House Representatives, yet Thomas will be running for his ninth term next year. If Thomas Massie was a man of integrity he would limit himself to the terms that he thinks all of congress should be limited.
Thomas Massie is a swamp creature. If you think Thomas Massie is man of integrity then you are going to be disappointed, find a better hero.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:24 am to AUJACK
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Thomas Massie has been a long-time proponent of limiting congressional terms, supporting mandated limits of six to eight years for House Representatives, yet Thomas will be running for his ninth term next year. If Thomas Massie was a man of integrity he would limit himself to the terms that he thinks all of congress should be limited.
Do you really feel this way? I just can’t fathom how someone could reach that conclusion.
He adamantly supports a law that would leave him jobless. Despite his efforts, most politicians are spineless, so it won’t so much as reach the floor. And to hold to his principles he should quit rather than keep fighting?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:37 am to AUJACK
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Thomas Massie's brand is brand Thomas Massie.
Massie is supposed to be a man of integrity, a man who exposes limited government, term limits.
Speaking of term limits, Thomas Massie has been a long-time proponent of limiting congressional terms, supporting mandated limits of six to eight years for House Representatives, yet Thomas will be running for his ninth term next year. If Thomas Massie was a man of integrity he would limit himself to the terms that he thinks all of congress should be limited.
Thomas Massie is a swamp creature. If you think Thomas Massie is man of integrity then you are going to be disappointed, find a better hero.
This is the guy you are calling a swamp creature:
This is the kind of guy you think isn't:
This is the real reason they hate Massie:
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:39 am to 3down10
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Yes, how dare people not conform to the establishment.
What do you think Coach Saban does to a running back that continually fumbles the ball?
This isn't about acquiescence, it's about helping your side win the game.
I wonder if Massie is simply wearing the wrong jersey.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 1:42 am to Victor R Franko
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What do you think Coach Saban does to a running back that continually fumbles the ball?
This isn't about acquiescence, it's about helping your side win the game.
I wonder if Massie is simply wearing the wrong jersey.
Politics is not a team sport. Not to mention there isn't really 2 sides.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:25 am to GumboPot
Your platoon is going to quietly climb the hill and approach the enemy from behind and overtake them.
Massie stands up screaming "my job is to kill the enemy" and starts shooting. The enemy zeros in on the location, calls in artillery and kills the whole platoon.
Was Massie supposed to kill the enemy....yes. Did he win the moment and lose the entire enchilada due to his selfishness....yes.
In the infamous words of the Rolling Stones, you dont always get what you want....you get what you need.
Massie stands up screaming "my job is to kill the enemy" and starts shooting. The enemy zeros in on the location, calls in artillery and kills the whole platoon.
Was Massie supposed to kill the enemy....yes. Did he win the moment and lose the entire enchilada due to his selfishness....yes.
In the infamous words of the Rolling Stones, you dont always get what you want....you get what you need.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 2:28 am to 3down10
Every frickin thread....its the jews.....before the end of the first page.
We have trillions in fcking theft of our own tax dollars by our own govt, a few shekels aint whats driving the mess.
We have trillions in fcking theft of our own tax dollars by our own govt, a few shekels aint whats driving the mess.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:00 am to Bamanjo
MAGA is just George W Bush 2.0
But don’t worry it’s saving the country and owning the libs
But don’t worry it’s saving the country and owning the libs
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:06 am to rmnldr
This thread attracted the whiners
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:35 am to AUJACK
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Thomas Massie has been a long-time proponent of limiting congressional terms, supporting mandated limits of six to eight years for House Representatives, yet Thomas will be running for his ninth term next year. If Thomas Massie was a man of integrity he would limit himself to the terms that he thinks all of congress should be limited.
Nope. This is dead wrong and is a super common mistake. Massie advocates term limits for all, not for one. The idea behind term limits is that the cost of limiting terms for good congressmen is more than made up for by limiting the terms for bad ones. This is presumably a good trade off for Massie. But you say that in absence of this trade off he should just limit the terms of what he obviously considers a good congressman - himself - and get nothing in exchange? You can see the fallacy there.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:05 am to 3down10
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frick team sport politics.
Then you have completely naive and childish outlook on the reality of the inner workings of politics. This is the issue with libertarians, they can’t see the forest from the trees, they are so caught up in their principles, they don’t see the need for our side to push the ball down the field in a united and organized front. And this process is going to require some give and take.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:29 am to GumboPot
The contrast between JD (good) vs Gavin (evil) is unbelievable.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:09 am to Bamanjo
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earnest libertarianism
Oh please.
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