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One of the Texas summer camps affected by the July 4th flooding has announced some changes

Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:58 pm
Camp La Junta, all boys camps, sent this out today...hopefully Camp Mystic does the same and can come back.

Flood Monitoring Systems

Camp La Junta will have independent river monitors that automatically trigger alarms if water levels rise. Sirens and flashing lights across camp and will activate instantly during high-water events, eliminating human delays.

In addition, the Upper Guadalupe River Authority (UGRA) is installing a real-time river monitoring system to track water flow and height. Camp La Junta will have a dedicated dashboard to receive any alerts and warnings directly from the system.

These systems will give our staff the time and tools needed to respond quickly and effectively.


Camper Cabins and Buildings

All Camp La Junta camper cabins were located within or beyond the 500-year floodplain, with none located within the 100-year floodplain. As we rebuild, we’re taking the opportunity to place our cabins even further from the river for added safety. We are now rebuilding ten cabins: Riverside, 1, 2, 34, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, and Hilton. Each new cabin is being designed with safety, comfort, and durability in mind, while maintaining the traditional Camp La Junta look and feel.

All new camper occupied spaces will have a finish floor elevation above the 500-year floodplain elevation according to the Flood Insurance Study prepared by FEMA in 2020. This commitment ensures long-term safety and peace of mind for campers, families, and staff.

Highlights include:

· Cabin Hilton rebuilt larger and improved, now overlooking the athletic fields.

· New cabin complexes for T1 and C2 campers with upgraded facilities and shared spaces.

· Additional complex for younger campers to improve supervision and create room to grow.

· No camper will sleep on a slab that ever got wet from flood waters.

· Existing camper cabins within the 500-year floodplain will be repurposed for other camp uses.

· Dining Hall and Kitchen will be rebuilt in their original location, for day-use only.


Communication Systems

We’re upgrading camp communications to ensure reliable coordination every day and in any emergency. New systems include an enhanced camp-wide PA, intercoms in every cabin, additional walkie-talkies at all activity areas, and fiber-optic internet with satellite backup. All equipment is installed above the 500-year floodplain and connected to backup power, giving our staff a modern, dependable system that keeps everyone connected, informed, and ready to respond at all times.


Safety Coordination and Training

We’ve hired a person who will serve as dedicated full-time Safety Coordinator to oversee all emergency systems, drills, and response protocols, including training both campers and staff on emergency plans, and will additionally focus on camper happiness and well-being.

This person will:

· Monitor daily operations for safety compliance

· Manage training programs for counselors and staff

· Serve as a liaison with local emergency management and first responders

· Ensure all systems are tested and operational before each camp session


Legislative Safety Standards

Recent legislation, House Bill and Senate Bill 1 known as the Heaven’s 27 Camp Safety Act, outlines new, strengthened safety requirements for Texas youth camps. We’re proud to share that Camp La Junta supports these bills and the safety measures they set forth and will meet 100% of these standards before Summer 2026 begins.

These measures reinforce what’s always been central to us: the safety and well-being of every camper. These standards will further enhance our ability to provide a safe, fun, and meaningful summer experience for all our boys.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:01 pm to
Good for them.

quote:

hopefully Camp Mystic does the same and can come back


But I don't think I would send my kid to a camp where several staff and kids died in such a tragic manner. Just wouldn't sit right with me.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:03 pm to
Every time I read about this tragedy again, I immediately think of the progressives that got online and cheered the deaths of Christian kids like it was a parade.

Little did we know that was just a warm up for what was to come.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18910 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

But I don't think I would send my kid to a camp where several staff and kids died in such a tragic manner.


I don't think anyone died at this particular camp





Looks like a badass camp. Wish I'd gone to something like this when I was younger.











This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

But I don't think I would send my kid to a camp where several staff and kids died in such a tragic manner. Just wouldn't sit right with me.

This wasn't the camp with all of the deaths.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85705 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

But I don't think I would send my kid to a camp where several staff and kids died in such a tragic manner. Just wouldn't sit right with me.


If my family had been doing the camps for generations or something I probably would. But I agree.

I can sit here and rationalize how unlikely it is to see another tragedy of this level especially in the near term, how the safety plans will make that more remote, etc.

But ultimately it's cost-benefit for parents. And it has to be a significant benefit to outweigh an extremely low chance of a high-magnitude cost. I'm definitely a "you have to live your life and take some risks" kind of dad, but there are other summer camps without the history of the Hill Country ones (and I personally think they're pretty cool in general). I'm sure they'll have enough legacy support to recover, eventually.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
763 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:14 pm to
Seems like a case of 'upgrade or become uninsurable.'
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24583 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:16 pm to
Have any lawsuits been filed against the camps?

Edit: yes.
Multiple lawsuits have been filed against Camp Mystic following the July 2025 floods in Texas that killed over 130 people, including many children, as reported by Oliver Bell Group. The lawsuits allege negligence, claiming the camp failed to evacuate campers despite receiving flood warnings and had inadequate emergency plans. Legal experts anticipate various claims, such as wrongful death and negligence, though some families had to sign waivers beforehand, which complicates the legal process, notes Steckler Wayne & Love
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18910 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

hopefully Camp Mystic does the same and can come back.


Camp Mystic will partially reopen, build memorial to campers killed in flooding

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/camp-mystic-will-partially-reopen-build-memorial-campers-killed-flooding/FOJUIX5FJBDXLHTIBKYYPMNERY/

quote:

Camp Mystic’s owners sent emails to parents saying it will reopen the Cypress Lake site. KHOU said the location was “just around a hill” from the camp that was washed out earlier this year, the Guadalupe camp.

The Cypress Lake area of the camp was not damaged in the July 4 flooding, The Associated Press reported.


quote:

The parents of the last missing girl from Camp Mystic, the Christian girls’ camp where 25 young campers and two counselors died during the July 4 flooding, blasted its recent decision to reopen one of its campsites in 2026 in a letter made public on Thursday.

“To promote reopening less than three months after the tragedy — while one camper remains missing — is unthinkable,” wrote CiCi and Will Steward, whose 8-year-old daughter Cile Steward has not been found. “Our families remain trapped in the deepest throes of grief, yet your communications treat our never-ending nightmare as little more than a brief pause before resuming business as usual.”

Camp Mystic officials said in an email sent to families on Monday that they would follow all new laws and regulations as it welcomed campers back at its Cypress Lake site and as they look to rebuild the Guadalupe River site. The Cypress Lake site is less than a mile south and uphill from the Guadalupe River site. They also assured parents that campers would never return to cabins that were flooded in July and said plans are in the works to build a memorial for the “Heaven’s 27” campers and counselors who died during the flooding.


This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134883 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

progressives that got online and cheered the deaths of Christian kids like it was a parade.


Their souls are dead. It's the only answer. Same with Charlie.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4293 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:37 pm to
Awesome news.

Hopefully the other camps follow suit but unfortunately it won't bring those sweet kids back.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9800 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:43 pm to
Strong work.

Did that camp lose any campers or staff in the flood?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26210 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Did that camp lose any campers or staff in the flood?
No
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2851 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:27 pm to
La Junta took a little damage, but got off relatively easy compared to many of the others.

I've seen a lot of gnarly shite in my day, but being in the middle of that really hit home.

You can't really imagine the height/power of the water until you're standing right there. It's one thing for the water to be high when it's channeled in between steep banks/terrain. It's another for it to come through 40ft high and 600m wide. There were times when my brain had a hard time processing what my eyes were seeing.

The terrain and how it affected the water levels/flow is the primary variable that differentiated between camps that got wiped out and those where they had no casualties and less damage.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3991 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:37 pm to
This is great, but why not move bunk houses to grounds higher than flood level or put the bunk houses up on piers kind of like a grand isle camp.

Sensors and warnings are great, but how about moving the people to a spot where they don’t have to rely on a piece of electronics.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18295 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

But I don't think I would send my kid to a camp where several staff and kids died in such a tragic manner. Just wouldn't sit right with me.

I wouldn’t send them the first year for sure. I’d want to see evidence that safety measures are in place and work. I don’t want my kids to be the guinea pigs.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
236 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

This is great, but why not move bunk houses to grounds higher than flood level or put the bunk houses up on piers kind of like a grand isle camp.

Sensors and warnings are great, but how about moving the people to a spot where they don’t have to rely on a piece of electronics.


Multiple structures on piers were swept away. This isn't flooding like LA gets. The water was just moving too fast. And they did rebuild on the 500 Year flood plain. They were previously partially in the 100 year flood plain.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1406 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:55 pm to
Ya, it was sad and bad luck. I know a woman who was my mother's college roommate at another girls camp in the area. They were scheduled to open that Sunday and had staff and her grandkids there. She disappeared going to check on horses, but fortunately had evacuated everyone else and they all survived. IDK if they had better cellphone service and were alerted or what. She was a tremendous woman who would help out anyone.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70917 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

today...hopefully Camp Mystic does the same and can come back.

They've already announced that they're reopening for the next season.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70917 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Camp Mystic officials said in an email sent to families on Monday that they would follow all new laws and regulations

While the leaders of the camp cooperation/lobbying group they are part of is hard at work fighting the implementation of those new laws and regulations on behalf of the camp.
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