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US ranchers orgs oppose plan U.S. government’s plan to import more Argentine beef

Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:30 pm
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SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — President Donald Trump ’s plan to cut record beef prices by importing more meat from Argentina is running into heated opposition from U.S. ranchers who are enjoying some rare profitable years and skepticism from experts who say the president’s move probably wouldn’t lead to cheaper prices at grocery stores.

The National Cattlemen’s Beef Association along with the Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund United Stockgrowers of America and other farming groups — who are normally some of the president’s biggest supporters — all criticized Trump’s idea because of what it could do to American ranchers and feedlot operators. And agricultural economists say Argentine beef accounts for such a small slice of beef imports — only about 2% — that even doubling that wouldn’t change prices much.

South Dakota rancher Brett Kenzy said he wants American consumers to determine whether beef is too expensive, not the government. And so far there is little sign that consumers are substituting chicken or other proteins for beef on their shopping lists even though the average price of a pound of ground beef hit its highest point ever at $6.32 in the latest report before the government shutdown began.

“I love ‘Make America Great Again’ rhetoric. I love ‘America First’ rhetoric,” he said. “But to me this feels a lot like the failed policies of the past — the free trade sourcing cheap global goods.”

Several factors have sent beef prices soaring, starting with continued strong demand combined with the smallest U.S. herd size since 1961. In part, that small herd is due to years of drought and low cattle prices.


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Through July, the United States has imported 72.5 million pounds of Argentine beef while producing more than 15 billion pounds of beef. Much of what is imported is lean beef trimmings that meatpackers mix with fattier beef produced in the United States to produce the varieties of ground beef that domestic consumers want, so any change in imports would affect primarily hamburger. Steak prices that were averaging $12.22 per pound probably wouldn’t change much.


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Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:32 pm to
Everything government touches, it breaks
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:33 pm to
I want more entrana on the cheap
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
Ranchers want protectionism.

Screw them.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58664 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
They don’t want us to experience good beef
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:38 pm to
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rancher Brett Kenzy said he wants American consumers to determine whether beef is too expensive


sounds like we're all in agreement?

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heated opposition from U.S. ranchers who are enjoying some rare profitable years


yeah frick off
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:38 pm to
Im torn on this.

Generally speaking, government intervention in the markets fricks everything long term.

On the other hand, the beef industry is already twisted by government intervention and small time operators are being choked out by the big packers.

Its hard to know where to fall on this. I guess you can never really go wrong with buying local
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:38 pm to
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from U.S. ranchers who are enjoying some rare profitable years
Yeah poor ranchers are just barely scraping by.....


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strong demand combined with the smallest U.S. herd size since 1961
So the demand is there but supply is not causing the price to inflate? So bringing more supply in hurts how?

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Through July, the United States has imported 72.5 million pounds of Argentine beef while producing more than 15 billion pounds of beef.


72 million is less than half a percent of 15 billion...
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:39 pm to
Not a popular opinion on here, but Trump’s second term is hugely disappointing:

Tariffs aren’t working
Prices are still high
Housing is unaffordable
Interest rates still high
Farmers are struggling due to stuff like this
Epstein files still protected
Spending still out of control
Still supporting Ukraine just like Biden
$40B bailout to Argentina
Trying to remove actual conservatives like Massy from Congress
Seemingly owned by Israel
Cabinet picks are pretty awful (excluding RFK, Tulsi and Rubio)
Building monuments to himself in DC (like the new entrance and WH Ballroom

I’ll give credit to the border policies and deportations. He’s worked to find a solution between Israel and Hamas.

Trump is not a Republican or Conservative. He’s a cult of personality and a populist.

Is he better than Kamala? Without question. Is he the best we could have? In this fallen empire, maybe so.

He’s far from perfect and well away from conservatism.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Barneyrb
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:48 pm to
The rancher (Wyoming) I know sold steers for a decent price this year. His cost of feed, hay, diesel, and other things it takes to raise beef is way higher than ever before. Good thing he sold a couple of weeks ago and not when this foreign beef hits the stores.


The one's making money in beef now are the processors, there's now but 3 or 4 in the nation (not counting the mom & pops) and they pretty much control your price in the store and what they buy cattle for.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:50 pm to
I have two friends who have small herds. They are getting a really good price right now for calves and young cows.That said, the price of hay is high, there hasn't been much rain. Fertiler is expensive and equipment is out of sight.

Perhaps a bigger concern is the size of the national herd. It's diminished and with folks selling off mama cows and calves, rebuilding the size of the herd is not something that will happen overnight. They expect grocery store prices to continue to go up.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Ranchers want protectionism.

Screw them.


Ranchers aren't the problem. 4 distributors, JBS, Tyson Foods, Cargill and National Beef, control 80% of the market. B/c there is basically no real competition the ranchers get driven down on the price they get paid for their beef and consumers get pushed higher on the price we pay at the store.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292676 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Ranchers aren't the problem. 4 distributors, JBS, Tyson Foods, Cargill and National Beef, control 80% of the market. B/c there is basically no real competition the ranchers get fricked on the price they get paid for their beef and consumers get fricked on the price we pay at the store.


Which is why Ranchers should form coops and start their own processing/distrubution.

Until then we should import beef to keep consumer costs down.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:53 pm to
Argentina matters more
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:54 pm to
bring it, I want cheap beef.
Posted by junkyard1
TTown
Member since Nov 2022
86 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:56 pm to
If he wants to stick the governments nose into the cattle industry, how about regulating the monopoly the big packers have.
Not hurt our cattlemen by importing.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58474 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:57 pm to
Maga: make Argentina great again
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
13404 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Tariffs aren’t working
Prices are still high
Housing is unaffordable
Interest rates still high


All of this is going to take time to manifest. We're not even 9 months in.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:59 pm to
Why are beef prices so high?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17532 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Not a popular opinion on here, but Trump’s second term is hugely disappointing:


I know this is a Trump board, so you're right your takes will not be popular and you will be downvoted and blasted to oblivion, but the dude just flat out says and does a lot of mindless, idiotic and egotistical things and always has - well before he got into politics, but since he's been re-elected he's doubled down.

Now you can say so did Biden (or whoever was making decisions for Biden) and you might be right about that, but doesn't change the above.
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