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House of Guinness (Netflix) Spoilers

Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:51 am
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:51 am
I went to check for the new season of Alice in Borderland and saw this new show also released today from the creator of Peaky Blinders. Anybody planning to watch this?
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In 1868, the Guinness family patriarch is dead in Dublin; his four children, each with dark secrets to hide, hold the brewery's fate in their hands.

This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by vistajay
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:53 am to
I plan to do so, while drinking a Guinness of course.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:36 pm to
Fantastic idea!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:43 pm to
Didn't realize it dropped today and yes, definitely watching.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 1:25 pm to
Hell yes
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 2:35 pm to
10 minutes in Starburster by Fontaines D.C is getting overused in shows


Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:00 pm to
That looks fantastic.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 6:59 pm to
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10 minutes in Starburster by Fontaines D.C is getting overused in shows


1000%. Literally just heard it used in an episode of black rabbit lol.
Posted by minvielle
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:50 pm to
Yep mob land and black rabbit
Posted by Gusoline
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:39 pm to
Spoiler alert... the brewery survives.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:13 am to
Enjoyed the first two episodes. Some intriguing characters already. Nothing earth shattering yet, but a solid start.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:16 am to
is this at all historically accurate or did they just get a huge product placement deal on their period piece script?

obviously it’s dramatized but is there at least some shady or exciting stuff going on in guinness history
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:24 am to
Are yall enjoying Joffrey in this?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:54 am to
It is the same as Peaky Blinders. It takes place and is framed in historically accurate context, many of the people are real historical people, but most of the story is either made up from a very loose historically accurate starting point or over dramatacized from very thin historical evidence. The show will also weave in real historical events into the plot, that while may not have had direct actual involvement with the family, helps put real historical references into what is going on, same as Peaky Blinders.

Yes, there was some good, true drama to the family, but much of the show will take some liberties and run with stories that have been told about the family that aren't factually verified.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:45 pm to
Ok seems interesting enough. Pro-English protest and irish family in 1860s Dublin probably has some shite going on.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:28 pm to
Yea, first two episodes set stage for lots of Catholic/Protestant stuff as well as Irish Republican Brotherhood.

It is focused around the four children and the aftermath of Bejamin Guinness's will and his stipulations. General framework on what he did was fairly accurate, though a few differences.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:35 pm to
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is this at all historically accurate or did they just get a huge product placement deal on their period piece script?


I think they started with Guinness for the script but it takes extreme liberty with the family. The old man had like 10 kids and while all 4 depicted in the series existed none of them inherited the brewery as none were the actual oldest son. In fact the second oldest inherited the business since the oldest was in the clergy and the uncle most closely represents him. There was no pitting them against themselves in the will as it all went to one brother and all the siblings got some money, nobody was left out.


That being said, I am enjoying it. 3/4s of the way through the 5th episode is going to ruffle some feathers.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:53 pm to
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The old man had like 10 kids


No, he only had the 4.

ETA: I think you are one rung higher on the family tree than you should be.

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none of them inherited the brewery as none were the actual oldest son. In fact the second oldest inherited the business since the oldest was in the clergy and the uncle most closely represents him. There was no pitting them against themselves in the will as it all went to one brother and all the siblings got some money, nobody was left out.



No, he really did leave the brewery to them. He didn't stipulate that they'd lose everything if they left the business, but did make it that if they ever did, they'd only receive a negligible amount of capital from it, basically ensuring that they never really could pursue their own interests. The brother's could buy the other out if they declined, for 30,000 pounds.

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nobody was left out.



This is true though. Benjamin jr and Anne both got much more than the show is depicting.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:54 pm to
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The old man had like 10 kids


No, he only had the 4.

ETA: I think you are one rung higher on the family tree than you should be.


I had to look it up since I was going on memory from the film at the Guiness Brewery. No, he had a bunch of kids: from youngest to oldest Elizabeth, Hosea, Arthur, Edward, Olivia, Benjamin, Louisa, John Grattan, William Lunell, and Mary Anne. They also had 11 miscarriages. Hosea was the one that went into the clergy (oldest son) and I did get it mixed up and it was Arthur II who inherited the brewery. I didn't find anything about the brothers sharing the brewery via will but it certainly is possible. William and Benjamin did work in the brewery and became partners a few years after their fathers death. Edward never seemed to work in the brewery after Arthur's death and actually lost all his money in a ironworks buisiness and ran away to the Isle of Man.
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