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John Deere, a U.S. Icon, Is Undermined by Tariffs and Struggling Farmers
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:37 pm
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Josh Enlow buys and sells used tractors every day, filling a vast lot in Tulsa, Okla., with hundreds of agricultural and construction machines.
His customer base has shifted recently, as farmers and ranchers who would buy only new machines are now coming to his Enlow Tractor Auction interested in his secondhand equipment.
“The increases in new pricing has definitely driven people back to the used market,” Mr. Enlow said.
The list price for new tractors rose at least 60 percent over the last eight years, according to the University of Illinois Extension, with some models more than doubling in price, costing at least $250,000 more than they used to.
That’s bad news for companies like John Deere, the leading supplier of agricultural machinery in the United States. The company reported a record profit two years ago, but President Trump’s tariffs and trade policies are making the market more challenging and unpredictable for the business and its customers.
One of the country’s largest manufacturers is worse off now than it was six months ago. Last month, John Deere said net income in its most recent quarter was down 29 percent from a year earlier. Higher tariffs, primarily on steel but also on aluminum, have cost the company $300 million so far, with nearly another $300 million expected by the end of the year. This summer the company laid off 238 employees across factories in Illinois and Iowa.
Yet John Deere is just the sort of manufacturing powerhouse that Mr. Trump says he wants more of in the United States. The company, based in Moline, Ill., has made farm equipment since 1837. Its green-and-yellow tractors, combines and sprayers help farmers feed the country and produce billions of dollars’ worth of crops for export.
The company employs 30,000 workers in 60 facilities across the country and said more than 75 percent of its machines were assembled in the United States. Just 25 percent of the components used in its products come from foreign countries, John Deere said.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:42 pm to Seldom Seen
John Deere, a US icon, is undermined because the farmers who own their equipment are no longer able to work on them.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:43 pm to Seldom Seen
So the New York Times doesn't think taxes are patriotic any more?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:45 pm to Seldom Seen
The decrease in lower demand for U.S. grown crops is most likely due to competition from Brazil and Argentina and a stronger dollar.
Believe it or not other countries inflate their currencies faster than us. It's nuts.
Believe it or not other countries inflate their currencies faster than us. It's nuts.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:46 pm to TheHarahanian
This and JD prices their equipment knowing their largest customer base is getting government subsidies. That’s why this isn’t affecting other brands.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:46 pm to TheHarahanian
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John Deere, a US icon, is undermined because the farmers who own their equipment are no longer able to work on them.
I wonder if other competitive bands are cutting into John Deere?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:47 pm to Seldom Seen
So only 25% of their components come from overseas (subject to tariff in the last few months) but they’ve doubled the price of some of their models in the last eight years.
Just goes to show they’re fear mongering over tariffs.
Just goes to show they’re fear mongering over tariffs.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:47 pm to Seldom Seen
Someone already posted this but allow me to add color. Deere has been bracing for an ag cycle downturn since 2019. They brought in BCG and started laying off workers and restructuring the company in 2020, followed by a second round of layoffs in 2024. Deere imports very few machines for domestic sale, so tariff impact will be rather minimal.
This has very little to do with tariffs.
This has very little to do with tariffs.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:51 pm to GumboPot
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I wonder if other competitive bands are cutting into John Deere?
I haven’t seen numbers around that.
But if I were a big JD afficionado, I’d rather have one built in the 70s or 80s than a new one. Cheaper, and I can put a wrench on the used equipment.
JD incentivized that.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:57 pm to Seldom Seen
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more than 75 percent of its machines were assembled in the United States. Just 25 percent of the components used in its products come from foreign countries,
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some models more than doubling in price, costing at least $250,000 more than they used to.
Hum.......not adding up to tariffs.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:12 pm to LSUbest
Yeah, it’s not tariffs.
Besides, the esteemed message board scholar told us the “real” tariffs haven’t kicked in yet.
Besides, the esteemed message board scholar told us the “real” tariffs haven’t kicked in yet.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:16 pm to BeehiveTiger
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This and JD prices their equipment knowing their largest customer base is getting government subsidies. That’s why this isn’t affecting other brands.
What subsidies specifically?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:28 pm to Seldom Seen
I have no sympathy for John Deere. frick them and their predatory practices to screw over farmers
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:35 pm to TheHarahanian
Yes, F JD for gouging the shite out of the US farmer while giving shite away to overseas farmers in SA.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:45 pm to Seldom Seen
Yea they did this to themselves. They lockdown the equipment so when it breaks their techs
And the only ones who can fix. I hope they bankrupt. Cat can follow right behind. 750 bucks for a cat tech to come out on a skid to clear a clogged filter code.
And the only ones who can fix. I hope they bankrupt. Cat can follow right behind. 750 bucks for a cat tech to come out on a skid to clear a clogged filter code.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:48 pm to GumboPot
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The decrease in lower demand for U.S. grown crops is most likely due to competition from Brazil and Argentina and a stronger dollar.
Turns out designing Ag policy to support and depend on exporting a couple of crops which aren't even directly food for humans to our biggest world adversary who hates us wasn't a good strategy
All the while letting in imports of all the other food which we actually eat and then letting Brazilian and Chinese companies own 3 of the biggest livestock producers in the US
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:01 pm to Seldom Seen
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The list price for new tractors rose at least 60 percent over the last eight years
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President Trump’s tariffs and trade policies are making the market more challenging
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:17 pm to Seldom Seen
bullshite. Prices were way higher on equipment, just like everything else, prior to the tariffs. I haven't seen a significant change since the tariffs. CAT is considering repricing downward.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:19 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Yes, F JD for gouging the shite out of the US farmer while giving shite away to overseas farmers in SA.
This. I won't ever have a Deere unless there are some major long term changes. They got too big for their britches, fricked their customers over too much for too long and now they are blaming anything and everyone except their own bad decisions.
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