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Men's basketball and revenue sharing

Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by SuperFlyTiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:31 am
So I've been reading up on the new rules of pay for play. It seems each university gets 21 to 22 million dollars to pay its athletes. How each school divides that share is up to them.

Here is my unpopular take.

Punt on men's basketball. I don't think anyone would argue most of the 22 mil should go to football. Hell I'd say 90%, but that's me. But after they give football their cut, the rest should go to Baseball and Women's basketball. LSU is not, and never has been a basketball school. Why waste the resources??

And don't give me any argument that we are a basketball school. We are not. I was at LSU during the John Brady years. We made one good run with Swift and Bright. Didn't come close to a Final Four with Shaq and Chris Jackson, and accidentally made the final 4 once since the early 80's. This is not a basketball school.

Use our money for sports that we compete in and care about.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8682 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:37 am to
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Punt on men's basketball. I don't think anyone would argue most of the 22 mil should go to football. Hell I'd say 90%, but that's me. But after they give football their cut, the rest should go to Baseball and Women's basketball.
Men's basketball could go 0-30 and they'd still make the university millions of dollars. If men's basketball went 30-0, the school would make millions more dollars.

The Women's basketball program hemorrhages money, and the baseball program fights to break even.

A school like LSU should never, and will never, "punt" on men's basketball.
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And don't give me any argument that we are a basketball school. We are not. I was at LSU during the John Brady years. We made one good run with Swift and Bright. Didn't come close to a Final Four with Shaq and Chris Jackson, and accidentally made the final 4 once since the early 80's. This is not a basketball school.

The one time we had a coach willing to cheat outside of Dale Brown, we were very very good. We can still be very very good. The Wade era was an absolute blast. Stop being a pussy.
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1502 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:44 am to
horrible take

Posted by SuperFlyTiger
Member since Jun 2011
306 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:46 am to
Exactly. We had to cheat to be good. We are not a basketball school. You made my point for me. You said we could go 0-30 and make millions. We basically do that anyway. So spend the money on baseball and Kim. They have proven they can win.


You won't find 2 people on this board who would choose basketball over baseball. Plenty will argue that they would rather mens basketball over women's, but with title 9 and stuff, women's sports have to get their share. I'd give money to women's volleyball before I did men's basketball.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4740 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:46 am to
Money should go to football, baseball and mens basketball. THAT IS IT. Sorry everything else loses money.
Posted by KevinD
Member since Dec 2006
605 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:47 am to
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Stop being a pussy


Amen!!!!!!

LSU before Skip Bertman wasn’t sh#t in baseball.

LSU before Kim Mulkey wasn’t sh#t in women’s basketball.

LSU basketball easily brings in the second most revenue. So they deserve the revenue given to them. Maybe, just maybe if they prioritize LSU basketball and hire great coaches like these other two sports maybe they will become a powerhouse as well.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by SuperFlyTiger
Member since Jun 2011
306 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:50 am to
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LSU before Skip Bertman wasn’t sh#t in baseball.



Soooooo the last 30 years don't count??
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10452 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:52 am to
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Why waste the resources??



very simple answer

the basketball TV contract brings in a large sum of money for the athletic department.

the baseball TV contract does not.

does not matter which sport is better.
it's which one brings in money.
Posted by polarbear6
Member since Mar 2011
644 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:53 am to
This is a horrible take and thread should be deleted . Men’s basketball is the second biggest sport and in some places the biggest sport on campus . Once lsu decides to invest properly and hire a good coach it will thrive
Posted by Tiger2tiga
Member since Sep 2023
1108 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:54 am to
Bc how bad basketball has been, it still produces revenue. Baseball and women basketball don’t.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33688 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:55 am to
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the rest should go to Baseball and Women's basketball.


One (baseball) doesn't make much money for the AD even though the program is great. While baseball is a big deal at LSU, its totally irrelevant in the national landscape and doesn't drive media rights (TV) revenue at all.

The other (WBB) is the biggest money loser in the department despite the fact it is also being a good program.

MBB, nationally, is the second highest revenue generating sport in major conf. athletic departments. What you are advocating is for the AD to divert resources from a product line that could be very profitable to two product lines that will never be very profitable. That's a bad business model.


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And don't give me any argument that we are a basketball school. We are not. I was at LSU during the John Brady years. We made one good run with Swift and Bright. Didn't come close to a Final Four with Shaq and Chris Jackson, and accidentally made the final 4 once since the early 80's. This is not a basketball school


Florida was even less of a "basketball school"...until they found the right HC (Donvan) then did it again (Golden). Alabama and Auburn were NEVER "basketball schools". Now they have two of the best programs in the country and are packing their arenas (there were Auburn fans at last year's AU v. LSU game in BR who chose to attend the game in BR because it was easier/cheaper to get tickets to the game AND travel to BR to watch AU play than trying to get tickets to an AU home game).

The ONLY reason people don't care about LSU basketball right now is because they made a poor HC hire and the program is going nowhere (whether the decision to fire Wade was good or not is different discussion). While it's easier said than done, make the right hire and the program can flourish....just like Alabama....just like Auburn, and Florida, and Tennessee, NONE of whom had the basketball history of LSU before they made their current coaching hires.

If you prefer baseball and WBB to MBB, that's fine. Be a fan of whatever sport(s) you like. But from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to "ignore" MBB.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44537 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:58 am to
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Men's basketball could go 0-30 and they'd still make the university millions of dollars. If men's basketball went 30-0, the school would make millions more dollars.
MBB is missing out on so much potential revenue currently. Punting on MBB is plain stupid. Baseball is maxed out on revenue and WBB will never be profitable.

The state of LSU MBB right now is horrendous, but ignoring future potential is insane. Programs like UF, even Bama currently understand investing in MBB can bring huge benefits while still being a “football” school. Both programs were shite prior to Donovan at UF and Bama’s current investment. LSU has a much better history than either program.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8682 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:58 am to
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Exactly. We had to cheat to be good. We are not a basketball school
Every school that's good at basketball has to cheat to be good at basketball. Worse than every other sport in collegiate athletics.
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You said we could go 0-30 and make millions. We basically do that anyway. So spend the money on baseball and Kim. They have proven they can win.

You conveniently ignored both the other half of my sentence, as well as the point behind the sentence.

LSU basketball making the tournament and getting into the premier early and mid season tournaments brings more money to the school. We win national championships in baseball and WBB and lose money.

I am probably one of the biggest LSU baseball fans you will ever meet. I watch about 95% of pitches throwing during the season. LSU baseball should not have a higher rev share than MBB. WBB vs. baseball is a different discussion, especially in my personal hierarchy, but MBB v. baseball isn't even close.
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I'd give money to women's volleyball before I did men's basketball.
So your opinion should be disregarded in its' entirety. got it.

LSU has a claim to be third best program, historically, in the conference. In no world should we give up on MBB. We should actually invest a shite ton more money into the program. We were on the right track with Wade.

shite, even the CMM hire was a good faith showing of support behind the program. For whatever reason, it has not worked out. Is that because CMM isn't a good coach? Is that because we put less money into the program upon his arrival? Is that because we were severely limited in our opportunities when Wade left, while other SEC schools were making tremendous strides and significant investments into the sport?

I can't answer those questions. What I can tell you is that putting less money into the second most important sport in college athletics is just about the stupidest idea this board (constantly) has.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38776 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:58 am to
Imagine thinking we should give more to woman’s basketball than men’s basketball

Are you a 60 year old lesbian?
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5866 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:03 am to
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football, baseball and mens basketball. THAT IS IT. Sorry everything else loses money.


FYI.. Baseball loses millions each year
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33688 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:04 am to
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Are you a 60 year old lesbian?


Nah. The OP is just someone who hates men's basketball and doesn't understand business. That's why at a time when athletic depts need more money than ever, he wants LSU's AD to ignore its second most profitable business line to divert resources to two product lines than generate little to no profit for the department.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8682 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:07 am to
Yeah, these people didn't support the program at any point in time. They watched some Wade teams in big games and then in the tournament.

They weren't in the PMAC when LSU beat #1 Tenn without Tremont Waters and Naz Reid playing the worst game in his LSU career (still shocked he wasn't ejected for the first minute elbow on Grant Williams ). They weren't in the sold out PMAC for unranked LSU vs no. 25 Bama in Wade's last regular season game. They have no idea what this program could be, and was literally 3 years ago.

Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15760 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:10 am to
Football and men's basketball are the only two sports on campus that make money every year. Women's basketball and baseball lost money in the 2024 calendar year. It's why LSU's lack of investment on men's basketball has always been mind boggling. They're legitimately leaving money on the table.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20538 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:20 am to
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Use our money for sports that we compete in and care about.

Others already touched on the fact that men's basketball makes a lot more money than the baseball team; and if you have a sliver of improvement in basketball, you could make a lot more money.

Another thing to consider is LSU baseball is the best in the country, and even when they are "down by LSU standards" are still one of the best in the nation. You are already getting great returns without having to invest a lot; so why should they automatically invest so much more than other teams appear will?

Also, if we start seeing a lot of these programs beginning to invest heavily in their baseball programs resulting in LSU beginning to slide; there is nothing written in how they are currently planning to divide the money that would keep them from adjusting it a few years down the road.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14627 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:23 am to
Baseball will soon be as big a financial loser as WBB. The baseball annual deficit has risen these last 3 seasons and will skyrocket higher for 25-26.

Hopefully Football and MBB will keep earning revenue to cover our two most successful programs, baseball and WBB.
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