Started By
Message

Trump: Tariffs Could Replace Income Tax

Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74671 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:17 pm


InB4 surviving waterhead babies screech about "tHaT WiLL nEvEr hAppEn!"

Guess what else happened around 1913 to impact monetary policy?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73005 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:19 pm to
Trump is right that prior to 1913, tariffs were sufficient to cover the federal budget

What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913. A literally fraction of a fraction of what it is today. There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12806 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.


If we don't cut spending, no.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30763 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:21 pm to
We don’t have an earning problem. We have a spending problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:21 pm to
Hes wrong, and badly wrong.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74671 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913. A literally fraction of a fraction of what it is today. There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.

Your false premise is that the federal budget has any business being the size that it has become.

It should never have been allowed to get as bloated and unnecessary as it is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:22 pm to
So tariffs are revenue, not an impetus to return mfg.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913. A literally fraction of a fraction of what it is today. There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.


Please note, Trump is saying "income taxes". Not payroll taxes. Not capital gains taxes. Not potentially carried interest taxes. Not excise taxes. Not corporate taxes.

There are a shite ton of taxes in the federal government tax basket. Trump is only talking about supplanting income taxes with tariffs.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19021 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:23 pm to
America also wasn't the world's largest market in 1913 and was not the superpower of the world.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1990 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:24 pm to
Only if you cut like 90% of the current federal budget, which would be political suicide at the minimum and more likely than not fundamentally damaging to the entire nation.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Hes wrong, and badly wrong.


Introduce tariffs.

Eliminate income taxes.

Tax carried interest.

Increase corporate taxes.

Increase capital gains.

Increase excise taxes.

Break even revenue.

Declare income taxes eliminated.

Politically profit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Increase corporate taxes.

Increase capital gains.

Increase excise taxes.


Thats far more than just simply using tariffs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Your false premise is that the federal budget has any business being the size that it has become.


So we will finally see this mythical Trump budget that could be supported via tariffs soon, right?

quote:

The government is operating on a continuing resolution (CR) that was passed in March and extends funding through the end of the current fiscal year, September 30, 2025


27 days
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26767 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

If we don't cut spending, no.


Nobody's interested in that, especially Trump.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62475 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Your false premise is that the federal budget has any business being the size that it has become.

It should never have been allowed to get as bloated and unnecessary as it is.
Of you run on eliminations SS, Medicare and Medicare… me and 5 other people will vote for you. We aren’t going back to 913-sized government anytime soon by voter choice. Neither or our taxes.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2858 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:29 pm to
i think at this point they need the rest of the three years to prove how much money tariffs take in, then in '28 Vance can use the revenue from tariffs as his main campaign point. Trump is paving the way and fighting the courts who are trying their hardest to stop the tariffs.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26013 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:30 pm to
It’s on the last page of the Les Miles secret playbook.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12806 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Nobody's interested in that, especially Trump.


And, my ole lady.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74671 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Only if you cut like 90% of the current federal budget,

Again, the presumption is that we should be spending the money that we already are, at the federal level.

Many reject that premise.

The next window to be licked by the howler monkeys in the cheap seats is that "We have to service the debt!". Trump has already hinted that the figure that is touted by conventional wisdom as comprising the "national debt" might be just as rife with fraud as USAID and every other gargantuan federal boondoggle, and may only be a fraction of what we commonly accept as being just south of $40T owed to the Federal Reserve.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Trump is right that prior to 1913, tariffs were sufficient to cover the federal budget




We were also on the Gold Standard and there was no Federal Reserve Bank.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 7Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram