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re: Trump: Tariffs Could Replace Income Tax
Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:30 pm to VABuckeye
Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:30 pm to VABuckeye
Our fiscal year ends in 27 days.
The CR from March runs out in 27 days.
Last time we had a CR and BBB, Trump's fans shielded and defended the big spending by claiming it was Biden's spending. That's over now.
The CR from March runs out in 27 days.
Last time we had a CR and BBB, Trump's fans shielded and defended the big spending by claiming it was Biden's spending. That's over now.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:As was the economy. In comparison today’s economy with tariffs should more than cover operational expenses along with trimming frivolous spending…
What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:00 pm to VoxDawg
Whelp, I would welcome not paying income tax.
I’ll sit here and wait…..
I’ll sit here and wait…..
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:56 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913. A literally fraction of a fraction of what it is today. There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.
You were so close to the point and you fell flat on your arse.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:20 pm to VoxDawg
Tariffs as a kind of tax mean that everyone pays in if they buy foreign products.
Canada's healthy care system is supported by a 16% sales tax on everyone, but it's "free."
Canada's healthy care system is supported by a 16% sales tax on everyone, but it's "free."
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So tariffs are revenue, not an impetus to return mfg.
It’s both dummy. And more. Keep up.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:42 pm to VoxDawg
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Your false premise is that the federal budget has any business being the size that it has become. It should never have been allowed to get as bloated and unnecessary as it is.
Trump has expanded the budget YoY every year he’s been in office.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What he doesn’t seem to understand though, is that the federal budget was tiny in 1913. A literally fraction of a fraction of what it is today. There is no way tariff revenue can fund the current behemoth.
Everything else is bigger too.
People have a lack of vision.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:48 pm to GumboPot
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Trump is only talking about supplanting income taxes with tariffs.
Which is only 49% of all revenue taken in by the federal gov.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:58 pm to Jjdoc
For fiscal year (FY) 2024, the government collected nearly $4.9 trillion in total revenue. Personal income taxes accounted for $2.4 trillion.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:02 pm to GumboPot
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Increase corporate taxes
What a dumbass idea.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:03 pm to Drizzt
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It’s both
No, it can't be both.
Maybe a movie reference might help.
Remember when Gayle and Evelle are robbing that bank full of hayseeds in Raising Arizona and they tell the bank customers, "Evvvverybody frezze, evvvverybody get down on the floor," and no one moves and they all look confused and the Ole Timer says, "Well, which is it young feller? You want us to freeze, or to drop? Because if we freeze, we can't rightly drop to the floor, and if we drop, why we'll be in motion."
That's what this is like.
The more manufacturing returns to America, the less revenue the tariffs collect. The more revenue the tariffs collect, that means we're still importing rather than manufacturing here.
It can't be both anymore than the hayseeds in the bank could drop to the floor and also freeze at the same time.
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dummy
Well, somebody here is. I won't name names.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:12 pm to VoxDawg
This is Trump’s way of getting taxed into the Supreme Court as unconstitutional. Brilliant move! The biggest 3-D underwater chess move imaginable.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:04 am to wackatimesthree
The more manufacturing onshores the tariff revenue will shrink yes, but then the gdp and economy will be growing and the corporate tax revenue will go up to take its place.
It’s only the individual income taxes that is being removed.
He’ll just the spend and investment from everyone keeping all their money will supercharge the economy even before all the manufacturing onshoring takes effect.
It’s only the individual income taxes that is being removed.
He’ll just the spend and investment from everyone keeping all their money will supercharge the economy even before all the manufacturing onshoring takes effect.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 12:06 am
Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:09 am to Jjdoc
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For fiscal year (FY) 2024, the government collected nearly $4.9 trillion in total revenue. Personal income taxes accounted for $2.4 trillion.
Sigh….again. The math doesn’t add up.
Total personal income is roughly $29.5 trillion, of which we tax to generate $2.5 Trillion in revenue
Total imports are roughly $3.3 trillion, of which tarrifs are expected to generate roughly $350-400 billion a year in revenues.
To offset income taxes, tarrifs would have to increase to around 75-80%, however, that assumes that trade will remain at current amounts but it won’t, so tarrifs will have to be raised even further.
Y’all need to frickin stop with the stupid fantasies about tarrifs ending the Fed, or replacing the income tax, or 1913 or whatever. It ain’t happening.
After the “tarrifs will allow us to refinance the debt” stupidity, y’all need to stop.
Or do you really you really believe in the tooth fairy or strippers with a heart of gold?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:12 am to Ten Bears
You have to love you MB tards who want to keep paying Fed taxes cause of your TDS

Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:18 am to SDVTiger
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You have to love you MB tards who want to keep paying Fed taxes cause of your TDS
Hardly, but most people would prefer living in realityville instead of being irretrievably stupid.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:19 am to Ten Bears
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Hardly
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