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OpenAI and Sam Altman sued by parents for child's suicide

Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:57 am
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7580 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:57 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63809 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:03 am to
This is ridiculous for a few reasons but the biggest issue with this is that these parents are essentially asking to regulate OpenAI as if its SUPPOSED to "parent" their kids.


We're going to get shitty nerfed hyper regulated AI because people cannot do basic things or have basic common sense.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1940 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:24 am to
quote:

We're going to get shitty nerfed hyper regulated AI because people cannot do basic things or have basic common sense.


So...Basically like every mainstream internet service already. Google gives you help warnings and ridiculously filtered results for damn near everything already.

Humans aren't meant to have computer friends that do nothing but validate anything and everything.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25771 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:26 am to
Are they suing themselves for being shitty parents?
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 7:27 am
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:27 am to
Good. The tech bro dystopia that we are currently living in and their horrid views for the future are bad news for us mere plebs.

frick the tech bros. Uncle Ted was right.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155229 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:47 am to
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This is ridiculous for a few reasons but the biggest issue with this is that these parents are essentially asking to regulate OpenAI as if its SUPPOSED to "parent" their kids.

IIRC, I think their suit alleges that the chatbot basically did not follow its own parameters and at times even encouraged the kid to kill himself. Like the kid submitted pictures of nooses to let the AI examine it and tell him how to make it better.

I don't disagree with you at a base level, but supposedly the chatbot wasn't operating properly and the kid was able to basically trick it into continuing the conversations down some darker paths.

I'm not sure what the fix is either. But I do know that had this kid not had access to his computer (or was it a phone?) that he wouldn't have been able to access the chatbot and discuss all of these things. So that part is definitely on the parents.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3514 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:53 am to
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the kid was able to basically trick it
yet you people call it intelligent
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10548 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:30 am to
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Humans aren't meant to have computer friends that do nothing but validate anything and everything.

Humans aren't meant to have HUMAN friends or COUNSELORS, doctors, etc. who just validate their delusions and every fleeting whim or feeling, i.e. trans.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61996 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:33 am to
quote:

This is ridiculous for a few reasons but the biggest issue with this is that these parents are essentially asking to regulate OpenAI as if its SUPPOSED to "parent" their kids.


AI is programmed by someone. Do you think AI should be encouraging someone to commit suicide?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128557 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:34 am to
Do parents sue google when kids google how to kill themselves?
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:35 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13387 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:23 am to
Open AI provided the number for a suicide
hotline 45 times and asked him to call each time.

If this suit is won by the parents my guess is Open AI will automatically call the hotline and report from here on out.

I think the lawsuit is ridiculous.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33760 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:23 am to
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AI is programmed by someone. Do you think AI should be encouraging someone to commit suicide?


The entire point of artificial intelligence is that it learns, adapts and changes.

I think in a few years, we will look back on a time where AI “only” encouraged people to commit suicide as the good ole days.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1948 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:18 pm to
One reply made so much sense.


quote:

(And ?????????? are Asimov's "no harm" Three Laws for Robotics?)


There has to be a check and balance for this.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11197 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:33 pm to
Relying on AI for life guidance should be grounds for having one committed to a mental institution. As should wanting to cut off or bolt on a penis.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
60875 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:37 pm to
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This is ridiculous for a few reasons but the biggest issue with this is that these parents are essentially asking to regulate OpenAI as if its SUPPOSED to "parent" their kids.


Call me crazy but an AI platform should not be allowed to tell people how to kill themselves nor encourage them to do so.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33760 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:40 pm to
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an AI platform should not be allowed


This made me laugh

Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14400 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:40 pm to
Im ok with this. frick the tech bros.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77958 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:21 pm to
ok, well… that’s horrific

They should pay them.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7580 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:27 pm to
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The entire point of artificial intelligence is that it learns, adapts and changes.

In fact AI is incapable of remembering and it does not learn. Every piece of data returned is independent of past replies. All of the AI models have been caught contradicting themselves. AI is turning out to be an expensive joke.

The air is hissing out of the overinflated AI balloon
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33760 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:30 pm to
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AI is turning out to be an expensive joke.


Current models, perhaps. It’s early.
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