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Trump trying to get to heaven
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:25 am
quote:Newsweek
As he tries to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine, President Donald Trump said it is for greater reasons than merely Nobel Peace Prize nominations: He is hoping it helps him "get to heaven."
"If I can save 7,000 people per week from being killed – I want to get to heaven, if possible; I'm hearing I'm not doing well," Trump said in a televised phone interview Tuesday morning. "If I can get to heaven, this will be a reason."
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:28 am to bigjoe1
Not according to the gospel........NO man comes to the father except through Jesus
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:28 am to bigjoe1
quote:
I'm hearing I'm not doing well,"
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:29 am to pizzathehut
quote:It also says something about not judging unless ye be judged.
according to the gospel
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:35 am to RollTide4547
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It also says something about not judging unless ye be judged.
Which has exactly what to do with this particular situation?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:36 am to bigjoe1
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:38 am to bigjoe1
"not by works, but by faith...."
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:11 am to tigeraddict
Works should follow faith…
Works alone will not get you there unless you believe in God sending his Son!!
Works alone will not get you there unless you believe in God sending his Son!!
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:12 am to bigjoe1
He should buy a few blessings from his "faith advisor" woman.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:22 am to pizzathehut
Yep. Just toss the part about peacemakers.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:24 am to bigjoe1
What is he going to do in heaven?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:27 am to Augustus516
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What is he going to do in heaven?
Run it.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:36 am to bigjoe1
Accepting Jesus will get him to heaven. A side benefit to accepting Jesus is receiving the Grace to save 7000 people a week.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:52 am to RohanGonzales
quote:
What is he going to do in heaven?
Build seaside condos on the Sea of Galilee.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:56 am to bigjoe1
Sounds like he's not saved, if he truly believes what he said.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:59 am to RollTide4547
quote:Jesus also said, "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." (Jn 7:24)
It also says something about not judging unless ye be judged.
We can't judge souls of others, but we can tell a tree by its fruit.
If Trump is saying he wants to save lives as the basis of his justification/salvation, then he is not trusting in Christ's atoning work on the cross alone for his salvation, and as the Bible tells us, he is not currently saved.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:03 pm to bigjoe1
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"If I can save 7,000 people per week from being killed – I want to get to heaven, if possible; I'm hearing I'm not doing well," Trump said in a televised phone interview Tuesday morning. "If I can get to heaven, this will be a reason."
Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:05 pm to RollTide4547
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quote:
according to the gospel
It also says something about not judging unless ye be judged.
Yeah... For some reason, no one ever actually quotes that part in full, so here ya go:
"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
So, it's pretty much telling the Dems and the anti-Trump lawfare crew that they're about to be on the receiving end of what they began.
The idea that no one should judge anything is an errant interpretation based upon the omission of the remainder of the verses found in Matthew.
1 Cor 6:2 tells us that we should indeed judge and exercise discernment:
"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?"
Don't be one of those who only give half a quote in order to make an unfounded point.
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