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Will the U.S. - Canada Tensions Escalate or Calm Down Long Term?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:39 pm
I'll start by saying that, obviously, the U.S.-Canada relationship will probably remain tense as long as Trump is in office, so for the next 3 1/2 years. However, I wonder what will happen after Trump's time as President.
A friend of mine was just up in Canada for a week. Now given, they were in Quebec, specifically Montreal and Quebec City. Of course even by Canadian standards Quebec is liberal, especially compared to other provinces like Alberta.
While everyone was genuinely nice to him, and harbored no hostility towards him individually as an American, he did ask several of them about their views of the U.S. All of them did not hesitate to say they hate Trump, with several of them using the "Elbows Up" saying towards the U.S. and advising they will not vacation in the U.S. or buy any U.S. products if possible. Many of them are saying they think the U.S.-Canada relationship is damaged beyond repair, or at least for a generation.
I looked up several sources, and sure enough the "Elbows Up" saying has become very popular with Canadians, basically implying they are willing to fight the U.S. if necessary and as a sign of a complete boycott of the U.S.
With all the rhetoric from a lot of Canadians, I'm really surprised it hasn't been a bigger topic here.
I live in Florida, and there has been regular news here about Canadian tourism being down at least 50% and really hurting tourism in the state. I know many border states like New York and Michigan are also saying the same thing.
With that said, going down the rabbit hole, including on some Canadian Reddits, the arrogance from Canadians is pretty crazy. They truly think they can bring the U.S. to its knees. Some fully consider the two countries to already be at war.
My personal feelings is that it escalates. I think Canadians need to be careful with their rhetoric. As much as Trump caused this, I think Canadians have done nothing but escalate. And as far as I'm concerned, as a conservative, Canada needs the U.S. far more than the U.S. needs Canada. Canada can maybe hurt the U.S., but the U.S. can utterly destroy Canada economically.
While Trump hasn't gone beyond rhetoric, if the Canadians continue to boycott the U.S. in terms of travel, do you see any type of response? Do you see Americans responding in kind and cutting back on travel with Canada? While dramatic, I could easily see Trump banning all non-essential personal travel to Canada. Now obviously that would start off a complete economic war between the two countries, if not even a Cold War type situation.
While Americans could also boycott Canadians products, in general there really aren't many every day products from Canada that Americans use. Travel is probably the biggest way that Americans interact with Canada.
I can also see Trump pulling back the military. Canada, like most of Europe, only has a small military, a lot of it truly being for show. With the U.S. military essentially acting as Canada's military, Canada would become a fairly easy and enticing target.
What do you think? Do you think the tensions between the U.S. and Canada continue to escalate, even after Trump leaves office? Or you think they stay tense during the Trump years and then calm down long term?
A friend of mine was just up in Canada for a week. Now given, they were in Quebec, specifically Montreal and Quebec City. Of course even by Canadian standards Quebec is liberal, especially compared to other provinces like Alberta.
While everyone was genuinely nice to him, and harbored no hostility towards him individually as an American, he did ask several of them about their views of the U.S. All of them did not hesitate to say they hate Trump, with several of them using the "Elbows Up" saying towards the U.S. and advising they will not vacation in the U.S. or buy any U.S. products if possible. Many of them are saying they think the U.S.-Canada relationship is damaged beyond repair, or at least for a generation.
I looked up several sources, and sure enough the "Elbows Up" saying has become very popular with Canadians, basically implying they are willing to fight the U.S. if necessary and as a sign of a complete boycott of the U.S.
With all the rhetoric from a lot of Canadians, I'm really surprised it hasn't been a bigger topic here.
I live in Florida, and there has been regular news here about Canadian tourism being down at least 50% and really hurting tourism in the state. I know many border states like New York and Michigan are also saying the same thing.
With that said, going down the rabbit hole, including on some Canadian Reddits, the arrogance from Canadians is pretty crazy. They truly think they can bring the U.S. to its knees. Some fully consider the two countries to already be at war.
My personal feelings is that it escalates. I think Canadians need to be careful with their rhetoric. As much as Trump caused this, I think Canadians have done nothing but escalate. And as far as I'm concerned, as a conservative, Canada needs the U.S. far more than the U.S. needs Canada. Canada can maybe hurt the U.S., but the U.S. can utterly destroy Canada economically.
While Trump hasn't gone beyond rhetoric, if the Canadians continue to boycott the U.S. in terms of travel, do you see any type of response? Do you see Americans responding in kind and cutting back on travel with Canada? While dramatic, I could easily see Trump banning all non-essential personal travel to Canada. Now obviously that would start off a complete economic war between the two countries, if not even a Cold War type situation.
While Americans could also boycott Canadians products, in general there really aren't many every day products from Canada that Americans use. Travel is probably the biggest way that Americans interact with Canada.
I can also see Trump pulling back the military. Canada, like most of Europe, only has a small military, a lot of it truly being for show. With the U.S. military essentially acting as Canada's military, Canada would become a fairly easy and enticing target.
What do you think? Do you think the tensions between the U.S. and Canada continue to escalate, even after Trump leaves office? Or you think they stay tense during the Trump years and then calm down long term?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:44 pm to TigerSharkMan
Didn’t read all that, but can assure you, I give two fricks about Canada. I’m in Fort Lauderdale and there are plenty not boycotting, wish they would.
Also, they’ll hate JD more than for the eight years after.
Also, they’ll hate JD more than for the eight years after.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:46 pm to TigerSharkMan
Who gives a shite
Canada is irrelevant as a nation, might as well be Belgium.
May they never forget that we allow them to exist in the first place
Canada is irrelevant as a nation, might as well be Belgium.
May they never forget that we allow them to exist in the first place
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:49 pm to SoFlaGuy
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Didn’t read all that, but can assure you, I give two fricks about Canada. I’m in Fort Lauderdale and there are plenty not boycotting, wish they would.
Also, they’ll hate JD more than for the eight years after.
That's about how I am for the most part. I'm in the Tampa area though. Honestly tourism here was off this summer, but I think it was just off in general. I still felt like I saw plenty of Canadians on the beach.
With that said, so many people here are freaking out, saying that tourism is down due to Trump and the Canadians not visiting. I even know people who own and work at places on Madeira Beach and John's Pass and they are really losing it, so it does make me wonder if there is something to it.
Honestly, I'm more inclined to believe it's due to inflation and the fact you're lucky to find all day parking in Madeira Beach or John's Pass for under $30 during the peak seasons (I've seen some places go up to $50 for the day). I told my friends there I think it's more that you've finally priced people out.
The "Elbows Up" thing interested me though. I hadn't even heard the term. until my friend told me about some people mentioned Elbows Up to him while in Canada.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:50 pm to TigerSharkMan
What's with all these alters
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:50 pm to TigerSharkMan
A) it’s going to escalate. Canada is ultra globalist and Trump is going to continue to push a MAGA agenda.
In addition, Trump will be forcing an economic deal that will greatly stress an already struggling Canadian economy.
Beyond that it’s entirely likely Alberta will vote to leave which would be a nuclear escalation in rhetoric and might lead to a full diplomatic breakdown.
B) there will be no war. Canada has no meaningful armed forces and it would be like a house cat provoking a bengal tiger.
In addition, Trump will be forcing an economic deal that will greatly stress an already struggling Canadian economy.
Beyond that it’s entirely likely Alberta will vote to leave which would be a nuclear escalation in rhetoric and might lead to a full diplomatic breakdown.
B) there will be no war. Canada has no meaningful armed forces and it would be like a house cat provoking a bengal tiger.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:51 pm to 225bred
quote:
Who gives a shite
Canada is irrelevant as a nation, might as well be Belgium.
May they never forget that we allow them to exist in the first place
I will say, the thing the irritates me currently about Canada. They act like they were such a great "friend" to the U.S. and that we screwed it up. Besides Trump's dumb "51st state" remarks, it seems they have genuinely gotten out of shape just over the fact that the U.S. does not want them to be taking advantage of them in trading.
To me it reminds me of the type of "friends" who are only there when they need something from you.
If asking Canada to be equal in trading is too much, part of me questions if Canada was ever truly our friend in the first place.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:53 pm to tide06
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B) there will be no war. Canada has no meaningful armed forces and it would be like a house cat provoking a bengal tiger.
I agree there won't be any type of active war, I definitely see an economic war coming.
To me Canada has gotten too arrogant. I honestly would be okay with Trump imposing a temporary 30 or 60 day economic and travel boycott. We all know it would quickly bring Canada and most Canadians to their knees and I think it would crush all the stupid "Elbows Up" stuff.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:54 pm to TigerSharkMan
Canada is not our ally. We need to stop pretending they are.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:55 pm to 14&Counting
quote:
What's with all these alters
I'm not an alter. I actually just found this site a few days ago. Mostly I've used the LSU reddit.
Are new posters not allowed on the site? That seems very counterintuitive to the site being successful.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:04 pm to TigerSharkMan
quote:
I agree there won't be any type of active war, I definitely see an economic war coming
Then they’ll lose. Economically they’re a client state.
They have no economic leverage.
They have no military leverage.
If the EU bent the knee what possible path to a positive outcome could an economic confrontation have?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:05 pm to SoFlaGuy
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Didn’t read all that, but can assure you
This boards motto.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:06 pm to TigerSharkMan
quote:
What do you think? Do you think the tensions between the U.S. and Canada continue to escalate, even after Trump leaves office? Or you think they stay tense during the Trump years and then calm down long term?
Couple more trade deals signed and then we crush Canada's economy.
Bring their housing market to it's basement.
Bankrupt the Asians along with the bank of Canada.
Snap Elections bring in the conservatives and we go back to normal.
Normie Canadians will be able to buy a house.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:08 pm to TigerSharkMan
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While Americans could also boycott Canadians products, in general there really aren't many every day products from Canada that Americans use. Travel is probably the biggest way that Americans interact with Canada.
Lumber is used daily from Canada especially in the northern states, but the southern US states could easily replace the spruce lumber we get from them with yellow pine. We have 100 years of reserves in La, Miss, Bama and GA alone.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:09 pm to TigerSharkMan
Canada is angry that the US taxpayer is no longer subsidizing their lifestyle.
frick them.
frick them.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:10 pm to TigerSharkMan
I can’t imagine typing all of that about Canada. The US doesn’t need Canada for anything. It’s a pathetic and weak country that is in a death spiral thanks to Marxism.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:11 pm to pochejp
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We have 100 years of reserves in La, Miss, Bama and GA alone.
Absolutely this^
100% tariffs on Canadian lumber should be imposed.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:12 pm to TigerSharkMan
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LSU reddit
This explains why you care about Canada.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:13 pm to TigerSharkMan
Tensions with Otrawa will be maximum once Alberta bec9mes the 51st state
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