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Like the fall of the Roman Empire, so follows Apple

Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by tigahfan747
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2017
1841 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:55 am to
Good. I’m tired of all their crap. It’s far past time for people to hop off their train.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:57 am to
Never had apple, always had Samsung.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68741 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 am to
Jobs is cackling in his grave
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11816 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:24 am to
They could decide tomorrow they want to be the most valuable company in the world again and buyback all of the available float on the secondary market. It would just be a huge waste of cash. Market Cap is the dumbest metric to measure a company by.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10827 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:26 am to
LMFAO…..Do you usually make investment decisions disregarding professional stock analysts for the wisdom of YouTubers looking to profit from “views”? Let me guess, you’re a big fan of cryptocurrency?
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:39 am to
Finance people are incapable of anything other than destroying a products company.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4543 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:44 am to
I generally like my iPhone and iPad. What more could Apple do for a better product? It seems with each new phone it sucks more. While faster, I prefer my old 8 plus over the 15. The prices are definitely too high. I keep mine until it no longer functions properly.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
63823 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:46 am to
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They could decide tomorrow they want to be the most valuable company in the world again and buyback all of the available float on the secondary market. It would just be a huge waste of cash. Market Cap is the dumbest metric to measure a company by.


Nope. Its time to admit that the Steve Jobs era has officially run out of steam.
Posted by DennisQuaid
Member since Nov 2023
323 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:47 am to
I like mine too at first. But like clockwork, all their crap starts spazzing out about 6 months in
Posted by Kige Ramsey
1996,1998,2012.
Member since Jul 2007
44435 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:47 am to
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Never had apple, always had Samsung


This
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4543 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:50 am to
Agree. They need to return to quality. The apple market will hold with quality. Some of us don’t like android so no need to compete.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Member since Feb 2010
9117 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:50 am to
I don't have 26 minutes.

Cliff's Notes?
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:53 am to
Butt sex and Germanic invasions?
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle
Member since Jan 2023
6726 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:54 am to
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Cliff's Notes?

The video titled "Apple's Greed Is Finally Backfiring" argues that Apple's recent decline is due to a shift from a product-focused philosophy under Steve Jobs to a profit-driven one under Tim Cook [00:36].

Steve Jobs's Philosophy:
* Jobs focused on creating "great products," believing that financial success would follow [02:25].
* He saved the company from bankruptcy by streamlining the product lineup and focusing on hardware [01:47].
* He resisted financial strategies like dividends and stock buybacks, preferring to reinvest in the company [04:42].

Tim Cook's Leadership and Shift in Focus:
* Under Tim Cook, the focus shifted to "financial engineering" [05:52].
* Cook implemented a dividend and stock buyback program, attracting investors like Warren Buffett [06:01].
* The video notes a decline in product innovation, with internal emails suggesting a strategy of innovating "just enough" to maintain profit margins [13:09].
* This led to product stagnation and a notable price increase for the iPhone X [11:17].

The Failure of Apple Intelligence and Focus on Shareholders:
* Apple fell behind in the AI race, relying on outdated technology for Siri [18:09].
* A request for more AI chips was reportedly denied by the finance team, who instead prioritized stock buybacks [20:26].
* The video claims that "Apple Intelligence" was "almost entirely fabricated" and that promised features were delayed or removed [21:42].
* The video concludes that Apple now acts more like a finance company than a hardware company, a focus that could lead to its eventual downfall [26:04].

Posted by speedybaw
Member since Apr 2025
358 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:55 am to
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Do you usually make investment decisions disregarding professional stock analysts for the wisdom of YouTubers looking to profit from “views”? Let me guess, you’re a big fan of cryptocurrency?
Compared to the professional stock gurus who never consistently beats the sp500 ?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40000 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:02 am to
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The prices are definitely too high. I keep mine until it no longer functions properly.


The Iphone 8 you bought was 699. You can get a brand new iphone 16 for 799. If anything margins were probably better for apple back in the iphone 8 days.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134999 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:10 am to
Not a technology company's without Jobs.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2063 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:11 am to
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Never had apple, always had Samsung


Yep, I buy foreign products any chance I can get, especially Canadian.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2716 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:11 am to
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Never had apple, always had Samsung.
Samsung has been the superior product for a decade +. Bought the wife an iphone 16 pro max and it's laughable how far behind it is, even to my s23 ultra.

They're the jitterbug phone of smartphones: So lacking in features, customization and innovation that everyone from a toddler to meemaw can pick one up and run it. They finally joined the rest of civilization and started using USB-C chargers and the far superior RCS text messaging.
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